Should VCD Audio be Encoded as 44khz or 48khz?

Sykes · #1 06-24-2003, 04:31 PM

My question is 1 of intrest, what should kvcd audio be encoded as 44 kh or 48 ?

Should I or could I mux together m1v with ac3 or mp3 ?
Or do i have ta stick to hurting mp2 sound or is that the wrong 1 ta use with mpeg1 m1v files ? HELP

kwag · #2 06-24-2003, 04:42 PM

I'd suggest you stick to 44.1Khz for compatibility reasons. And mp2 audio won't hurt at all if you use HeadAC3he to encode it

-kwag

Sykes · #3 06-24-2003, 04:50 PM

Thanks ... i will stick to the 44 kh but could u tell me what other kinds of audio i can mux with an m1v mpeg1 file ?
It'd be kinda tight ta have ac3 sound with mpeg1 kvcd

kwag · #4 06-24-2003, 05:09 PM

You can't have AC3 audio with (K)VCDs or S(K)VCDs. It's not supported

-kwag

vico1 · #5 06-24-2003, 07:09 PM

@Kwag,
I`m going to be putting my encodes together on DVD, (soon as I get it) and was wondering...
Do you think it`s a good idea to use 48kHz for audio (my stand-alone player supports it, with SVCD)
on my Mpeg2s, to by-pass having to redo the audio later for DVD???

Not that it`s all that big a deal...but it is one more thing, I might not have to do.

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The Devil`s always.....in the Details!

kwag · #6 06-24-2003, 07:26 PM

If your player supports it, then by all means go ahead

I myself only do 44.1Khz, because of the 5 DVD players I have, only one supports 48Khz audio when playing MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 video as VCD/SVCD

So I stick with 44.1.Khz unless I'm doing a KDVD.

-kwag

dazedconfused · #7 06-24-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

If your player supports it, then by all means go ahead

I myself only do 44.1Khz, because of the 5 DVD players I have, only one supports 48Khz audio when playing MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 video as VCD/SVCD

So I stick with 44.1.Khz unless I'm doing a KDVD.

-kwag

Kwag, could you tell me the make/model of that player of yours that supports 48Khz mp2 audio? I know someone looking to buy a new player and they'd like it to support kvcd with 48Khz audio. Unfortunately, I can't recommend my player to him because it is no longer in production or available.

And other than the good advice of "take a kvcd with you to the store and try it out on as many players as possible", do you happen to know of any other kvcd compatible players that support 48Khz audio? I'm affraid none of stores in my friend's area have test models hooked up for customers to try (small area), so relying on trial-and-error and returning uncompatible players would be the only option for him.

Thanks.
-d&c

kwag · #8 06-24-2003, 08:18 PM

It's the JVC XV-F80BK 7 disk changer

It eats just about anything you throw at it. But keep MIN bitrate at 300Kbps.

-kwag

vico1 · #9 06-24-2003, 10:37 PM

My player that supports it, is an Apex 1100W (1meg ROM)

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dazedconfused · #10 06-24-2003, 11:57 PM

Thanks Kwag and Vico1 for the details about your players.

I think I'll start up a new thread in the Dvd Players forum so I can hopefully get some more 48Khz-compatible feedback from others. The more to choose from, the better the odds of my friend being able to find one.

-d&c

audi2honda · #11 06-25-2003, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazed&confused

Thanks Kwag and Vico1 for the details about your players.

I think I'll start up a new thread in the Dvd Players forum so I can hopefully get some more 48Khz-compatible feedback from others. The more to choose from, the better the odds of my friend being able to find one.

-d&c

Just for the record I use 48khz because my player supports it and it saves a bit of time during audio conversion.

I have a panasonic RP62

jorel · #12 06-25-2003, 12:12 AM

48khz

Philips 615

CCE 2100

(Brasil)

dazedconfused · #13 06-25-2003, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audi2honda

Just for the record I use 48khz because my player supports it and it saves a bit of time during audio conversion.

Exactly my reasoning for using it too! It also sounds a bit better than 44.1Khz audio...maybe not noticeable to some people, but the sound just seems deeper/richer to me.

Audi2honda, could you check out my post in the Standalone DVD Players Forum and let me know if your Panasonic fits my description there? Many thanks. I know my buddy mentioned seeing some Panasonic players at his local store, so that would be great if it's a match!

@ Jorel,
Thanks to you also friend! But I don't know if my friend (in the U.S.) could find the same model Philips player as yours in Brazil? But I will let him know just in case.

-d&c

EDIT- Here's the link to my other post: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4648

Also: sorry for hijacking your thread Sykes

! Seems like you were pretty much done with it though at least!

Sykes · #14 06-25-2003, 02:37 AM

lol I don't mind,
I'm 1 of those that wanna get a dvd burner but is not sure of which format to choose (plus minus)
& the dual format burners are like $700 to $800 (plus tax) here in canada

So any talk about a sort of a tweaked vcd format that beats vhs
(kvcd not vcd)

Is read & stored in my brain for later use lol

Can someone tell me wtf WLA.EXE (its somethin tok wants & I cant run tok without it
Help ?

Boulder · #15 06-25-2003, 02:47 AM

WLA = Wave length adjust. It's probably used in framerate conversions. You'll find it on the 'net, just use Google.

Sykes · #16 06-25-2003, 03:08 AM

Thankx Boulder

Jellygoose · #17 06-25-2003, 03:09 AM

You can also download the Extras for TOK her in the forum. Just download ToK with Extras...

aabalo · #18 06-25-2003, 09:37 AM

Pioneer DVD-656A, no problem with 48 KHz KVCDs.