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Uruk-hai 07-26-2004 07:04 PM

Subtitles in DVD authored by Rejig disappear?
 
I have been searching for months for tools that support .sup.
Rejig was one of them but to my experience it is buggy and development of Rejig had stopped. Subtitles in DVD authored by Rejig disappear automatically in every few minutes when I play it on my standalone. I need to stop the standalone player and press the play button again every few minutes. It is definitely not fun.

I like GUI_DVDAuthor every much but it supports only text base subtitle source. I tried to mux the audio and subtitles in Rejig and fed the muxed mpg into DVDAuthor but DVDAuthor was not happy about the mpg generated by Rejig.

In the SPUMUX documentation, I need to prepare something like:
Code:

<subpictures>
  <stream>
      <spu start="start-time" [ end="end-time" ] [ image="picture.png" ]
          [ highlight="picture.png" ] [ select="picture.png" ]
          [ transparent="color-code" ] [ force="yes" ]
          [ autooutline="infer" [ outlinewidth="width" ]
            [ autoorder="rows" | autoorder="columns" ] ]
          [ xoffset="x-coord" yoffset="y-coord" ] >
        <button [ name="name" ] [ x0="x0" ] [ y0="y0" ] [ x1="x1" ]
                [ y1="y1" ] [ up="name" ] [ down="name" ]
                [ left="name" ] [ right="name" ] />
        <action [ name="name" ] />
      </spu>
  </stream>
</subpictures>

I can convert my .sup into .bmp like:
Code:

;SubTitle-ID_en_0x21.sup
FrameRate=29.97
Palette=9922
Alpha=FFF0
{419}{487}{SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_000001.bmp}
{541}{611}{SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_000002.bmp}
{613}{687}{SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_000003.bmp}
{689}{792}{SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_000004.bmp}
{794}{919}{SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_000005.bmp}
{921}{986}{SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_000006.bmp}
{1017}{1122}{SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_000007.bmp}

But there are still many gaps in the two formats.
Do anyone know whether SPUMUX supports .bmp instead of .png?
Do anyone have a working .xml sample for NTSC coz I have no idea on what to fill the xoffset, yoffset, button....

Any guru here?

vmesquita 07-26-2004 07:11 PM

Hi Uruk-hai,

Older versions of SPUMUX used to support WinSubMux format. I am not sure if after the addition of XML this support was removed. You can convert from VOBSUB to this format using VSCONV.

Uruk-hai 07-26-2004 09:14 PM

VM, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't quite understand your solution.
Do you mean that VSCONV will convert my idx/sub or .sup into Winsubmux format? But isn't Winsubmux is for SVCD? I am making (K)DVD. What shall I put on the Winsubmux screen? Can DVDAuthor take the muxed mpg output from Winsubmux?

I just need a tool that can mux the .sup stream and compatible with dvdauthor. But it seems like such tool doesn't exist. :(

Dialhot 07-26-2004 09:23 PM

(it's funny to see how a question can rise in two toppic the exact same day :-))
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uruk-hai
Do you mean that VSCONV will convert my idx/sub or .sup into Winsubmux format? But isn't Winsubmux is for SVCD? I am making (K)DVD. What shall I put on the Winsubmux screen? Can DVDAuthor take the muxed mpg output from Winsubmux?

VM means that spumux is able to understand the syntax of input file of winsubmux but it will generate DVD subtitles from that of course :-)
Quote:

I just need a tool that can mux the .sup stream and compatible with dvdauthor. But it seems like such tool doesn't exist. :(
Idoedit can (if dvdauthor accept Vobs in input)

Uruk-hai 07-26-2004 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
IFOEdit

I tried this program (v0.96) before and to my experience it is equally problematic as Rejig. In some trials, the program quited abnormally in the middle of the process when creating the TS_VIDEO structure. (Not related to disk space). That was even worse than Rejig. :?

Maybe I got the wrong information, I remembered some guides suggest to use IFOEDIT for PAL and Rejig for NTSC.

In DVDAuthor, the last process is to fix the VOBU??. I dunno what it is but subtitles authored by DVDauthor never fails.

Dialhot 07-26-2004 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uruk-hai
In some trials, the program quited abnormally in the middle of the process when creating the TS_VIDEO structure

Check you version because I had that a lot with 0.95. 0.96 never gave me problems. But I never use the "audio delay" box because it was the one that gave the worst problems to v0.95. I always correct the delay in the ac3 files before to give them to ufoedit.

Quote:

Maybe I got the wrong information, I remembered some guides suggest to use IFOEDIT for PAL and Rejig for NTSC.
I'm doing mainly PAL :-(

Uruk-hai 07-27-2004 10:34 AM

It works now :P
All need in the .xml is the following lines:
Code:

<spu start="02:09:08.88" end="02:09:14.15" image="SubTitle-ID_en_0x21_001378.bmp"
    transparent="000000"/>

Although the steps are cumbersome, they work. :wink:


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