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Hello. I have been encoding kvcd and burning them for some time and have been getting great results. I have found some movies to not fit on one cd so i have encoded them to kdvd in hopes of getting them on one disc. I am not sure what settings to use in nero to burn them though. Also, can i make a bin cue file for this in vcdgear or vcdeasy?
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Hi phuquehair,

I suggest you get TMPGEnc DVD Author, as it will make things very easy
You just open your encoded file with the program's wizard, and it will automatically create the VOBs and the necessary DVD structure, and it will also burn the image for you.

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tyvm. here is a quote from the program:TMPGEnc DVD Author is software that can change (author) your MPEG-1/2 files to DVD-Video format. You can author MPEG-1/2 files based on the DVD standard, from either DVD-Video made by a DVD recorder, or video captured on a PC. So, does this mean you can also burn a bunch of kvcd onto one dvd-r also and have it play on a dvd player? I was under the impression, from what others have told me, that it is impossible to do.
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i guess i should have looked into it first b4 posting. Looks like it is impossible within the program.
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So, does this mean you can also burn a bunch of kvcd onto one dvd-r also and have it play on a dvd player? I was under the impression, from what others have told me, that it is impossible to do.
It is possible
As long as you re-encode the audio to 48Khz, you can put MPEG-1s (352x240) on a DVD and also your MPEG-2 files, if the resolution is not standard, you can use "DVD Patcher" to fool the authoring program, so it can import the files.
However, the patching hack is not guaranteed to play on every DVD player.

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if the resolution is not standard, you can use "DVD Patcher" to fool the authoring program, so it can import the files.
If you plan to do a lot of KDVD, I suggest you to take time to learn how to use DVDLabPro insteed of doing that. You will have a lot of new possibilities that tmpeng author does not offer.
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ok i will look for that one also. I think i will only be doing kdvd on the movies that are too long to look good on kvcd 352x240. I have only run into a few such as Magnolia, Lord of the rings (all 3), and meet Joe Black so far. I actually haven't done the encodes yet but they are in the batch list and coming up fast. From what I understand, it takes a lot more time to encode to kdvd and if that is the case, I will be avoiding it as much as possible.
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No offense but I can't understand someone can choose to encode in 352x240 insteed of 704x480 just for a matter of encodign time !

The visual difference in the result is the same than between a VHS and a DVD.

With KDVD you can put 4 hours on a disc in 704x480, 6 in 352x480 and 10 in 352x240.
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04-09-2005, 10:25 AM
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well i have only been doing kvcd so far. I have encoded over 300 movies in kvcd format. The mpg filsizes are all kept betweeen 700-813 mb. I can keep them al on my hard drives. If i was to encode them all to kdvd i believe the file sizes would be much larger and also i have not kept all the sources. It would take me forever to catch up. Also, CDs are half the price of DVD. I see your point but I have all these factors to consider.
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If i was to encode them all to kdvd i believe the file sizes would be much larger
Of course. Personnaly I put 3 movie on a DVD in 544x480 so each movie is near 1300 MB (near 2x more than for a KVCD). You can imagine how much better is the quality (it's like doing a 2CD KVCD).

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and also i have not kept all the sources.
I do not speak about redoing what you already did of course . But for future jobs.

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Also, CDs are half the price of DVD. I see your point but I have all these factors to consider.
#1 - On a DVD you can put at least three movie, so the content of 3 CD.
#2 - You should look better. DVD are now cheaper than CD. At least in europe (I just bought a 100 pieces cackebox for 28 euros, that is less than 45 US$).
Price is not an argument
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i will see how these encodes go and the burning process and take it from there, I suppose. As I said, this will be the first kdvd I have done. I hope it doesn't take like 8 hours for an encode.
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#2 - You should look better. DVD are now cheaper than CD. At least in europe (I just bought a 100 pieces cackebox for 28 euros, that is less than 45 US$).
Price is not an argument
Where? I need it.
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04-09-2005, 11:16 AM
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Where? I need it.
In Germany. UK prices are a little more but you can save on the shipping.

http://www.cdr-by-mail.co.uk/acatalog/index.html
http://www.nierle4.com/s01.php?cur=eur&sp=sp&ag=1
http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog/default.php

The box I bought is http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog...roducts_id/516
(Be carefull : these are Princo-Budget. They are not the same the the shitty Budget, also yellow, sold on the site)
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How many units do you need to buy in a way tha buying there to be worth.
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i can find deals like that all over in Michigan but I can also find CD-R at $20 for 2-50 packs. So the price is les than half that of dvd.
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I hope I am doing the right thing by setting inverse telcine for kdvd. I use it all the time for kvcd but am unsure of the results in kdvd. The sources are non-interlace so I think it should be ok. Also, I posted in another topic the question of what setting to use for merging kvcd in TMPGenc. I figure someone could answer both questions right here easier than flopping around the site.
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How many units do you need to buy in a way tha buying there to be worth.
The shipping is generally for up to 12 kilos. So the more you buy, the cheaper it is. A 50 pieces cakebox weigh 1 kilogramm. So 12kg = 600 DVD.
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nverse telcine for kdvd. I use it all the time for kvcd
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Why the hell do you use that if the source is progressive ?
The best situation is just a time loss (tmpgenc tried to apply a filter where it is not necesarry).
The worst situation : you are completly screwing the field order by trying to restore something that never existed. Are you skilled enought in this domain to be sure that your result is not completly screwed simply by watching it ?

Inverse telecine has to be used on telecined source only of course !
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The box I bought is http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com/catalog...roducts_id/516
(Be carefull : these are Princo-Budget. They are not the same the the shitty Budget, also yellow, sold on the site)
Have you tested these dvd?
They are good?
When I have begun to burn dvd I used the princo 4x white and after numerous problems I have understood that it was the support that was not good.
When it came reproduced the final part of the film began the problems.

Have you of these problems in the dvd that you have bought?

after I have used the dvd fujifilm and sometimes it did not read them. Now I use verbatim 8x on whichever standalone and I do not have more problems.

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Have you tested these dvd?
They are good?
I burnt a dozen of them in video and a couple in data. Not a single bad sector after burning (all in 4x).

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after I have used the dvd fujifilm and sometimes it did not read them. Now I use verbatim 8x on whichever standalone and I do not have more problems.
On the same site they sold some times ago anynoym DVD for half the price of Verbatim but they were verbatim ! (same ID code).
Read carefully the details of each product, they indicate the ID. Sometimes you can have good surprises.

Note: Boulder and Inc reported a lot of problems with 8x verbatim... you see...
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