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rds_correia 05-28-2005 04:59 PM

Muxman 0.14f usage basics?
 
Hi there,
I don't know how many of you have already tried Muxman for (K)DVD authoring.
I'm currently trying 0.14f but I have a couple of questions:
1-Under video there are 3 radio buttons to choose from PS, LB or Both.
I assume that PS stands for PanScan and LB stands for LetterBox.
Maybe I'm wrong or maybe I'm right.
The question is which one do I choose for Anamorphic and which one do I choose for non-Anamorphic encodes?
2-Under Audio there is a delay field but I'm not sure how to use it.
Let's suppose that I demuxed my audio track with DVD2AVI/DGIndex.
The ac3 filename has already a delay figure on it (e.g. MATRIX1 AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -23ms.ac3).
In this case it's "-23ms".
What should I insert in Muxman? -23 or just 23?
I assume it's -23 but it's just to play safe...
3-Under SubPictures there are 3 buttons: PS, LB and WIDE.
Which ones to choose under which conditions?

I was looking at the txt files that DVD Decrypt creates for the chapters etc and I found a file named "VTS_02 - Stream Information.txt".
Inside I found information such as:
Code:

0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 19803 / PTS: 00:00:47.812 / Delay: 47680ms
0x21 - Subtitle - Espaņol ................
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 3654 / PTS: 00:00:00.028 / Delay: -103ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Espaņol / LBA: 3653 / PTS: 00:00:00.028 / Delay: -104ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 3649 / PTS: 00:00:00.132 / Delay: 0ms

Looking at it, it seems that my movie is considered "Letterboxed", right?
And that my subs were created for "Wide/Letterbox", right?

4-Last but not least. I'd like to put at least 2 movies in a DVD.
No menus needed, just the movies inside the plastic :).
Will Muxman do more than one VTS?

TIA
Cheers

rds_correia 06-13-2005 06:10 AM

Ok, Since noone answered yet, I'll double post to see if I can draw your attention :).
I still have some doubts as for 1,2 and 3.
But in terms of 4 I already checked that it can only coupe with 1 VTS.
There will be a paid version capable of 99 VTSs.
But how can I put 2 movies with the same specs in the same VTS?
I can't see how I can load 2 Video files...
Cheers

EDITED: typo :oops: alert :lol:

Dialhot 06-13-2005 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia
I still have some doubts as for 1,2 and 3.

I guess you can check 2 by yourself also ;)

PS and LB are two flags to inform DVDPlayer what they have to do with the movie. If you don't want the SPA to letterbox automatically a movie, you must check only PS. I have this on a concert of "The Corr's".
In you case, you have to select Both (or letterbox if you want to force people to watch your movie in letterbox even if they select PS in the setup of their SPA).

This setting is relevant only for anamorphic stream, but is harmless (unused) with non-anamorphic.

rds_correia 06-13-2005 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
I guess you can check 2 by yourself also ;)

I would if I knew a method to be 100% sure.
I just don't know how to do it.
I can mux the file for -23 on one DVD and with 23 for another DVD and compare them afterwards.
But I'm affraid that an overall difference of 46ms is not enough for my eyes and hears to be sure on what to do, as I have already tried that.
I am pretty confident that if DVD2AVI reports -23 I should enter -23 on muxman, but I just wanted to be 100% sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
PS and LB are two flags to inform DVDPlayer what they have to do with the movie. If you don't want the SPA to letterbox automatically a movie, you must check only PS. I have this on a concert of "The Corr's".
In you case, you have to select Both (or letterbox if you want to force people to watch your movie in letterbox even if they select PS in the setup of their SPA).

This setting is relevant only for anamorphic stream, but is harmless (unused) with non-anamorphic.

Cool.
Since nowadays more than 95% of my encodes are anamorphic I should leave both settings on, right?
You didn't say anything about burning 2 movies in the same VTS using muxman, though :?.
Cheers

Dialhot 06-13-2005 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia
But I'm affraid that an overall difference of 46ms is not enough for my eyes and hears to be sure on what to do, as I have already tried that.

So you discovered that there is really no problem with such little delay. 46 ms is 1 frame (at 25 fps). Lispstick start to be noticed (in a theater) with 5 frames (200 ms).
In other words : don't even worry about the delay.

I am pretty confident that if DVD2AVI reports -23 I should enter -23 on muxman, but I just wanted to be 100% sure.

Quote:

Since nowadays more than 95% of my encodes are anamorphic I should leave both settings on, right?
Yes it is.

Quote:

You didn't say anything about burning 2 movies in the same VTS using muxman, though :?.
For sure not. Except if I'm talking in my dreams about tools I never used in real life ;)
Why do you bother with muxman when DVDLab can do that easily ?

rds_correia 06-13-2005 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
For sure not. Except if I'm talking in my dreams about tools I never used in real life ;)
Why do you bother with muxman when DVDLab can do that easily ?

First, thanks for clarifying the other questions I posed.
I would like to go with Muxman because although I can only use 1 VTS, I can use subtitles with it whereas I don't think I can do subtitles on DVDLab.
That's a feature only present on DVDLab-Studio and DVDLab Pro, right?
As well as multi-VTS, right?
I would love to buy DVDLab Pro, but right now I can't.
So I'll have to stick with what I can find for free :?.
I see you still haven't really tried Muxman.
Anybody else tried it and care to help me out?
Cheers


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