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01-04-2005, 02:00 AM
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What scripts are now recommended for a one movie DVD to DVD with KDVD full template?. I've been using Phil's:

mpeg2Source("xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.d2v")
Crop(8,0,704,576) # for full screen
#Crop(8,16,704,544) # for 1.85
#Crop(8,72,704,432) # for 2.35

Fluxsmooth()
TemporalCleaner(5,10)
Undot()
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)

AddBorders(0,0,0,0) # for fullscreen
# AddBorders(0,16,0,16) # for 1.85
# AddBorders(0,72,0,72) # for 2.35

Letterbox(16,16,16,16) # overscan=2

Also, with this script, do I use "High quality (slow)" or "Motion estimate search (fast)" in TMPGEnc?
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With one movie per DVD (a normal length movie), I would only use

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MPEG2Source("path\clip.d2v",idct=7)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)
#Cropping the borders off each side
TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)
#Resizing to 704x480/576
Limiter()
#AddBorders()
ConverttoYUY2()
IMO you are overfiltering big time
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With one movie per DVD (a normal length movie), I would only use

Code:
MPEG2Source("path\clip.d2v",idct=7)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)
#Cropping the borders off each side
TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)
#Resizing to 704x480/576
Limiter()
#AddBorders()
ConverttoYUY2()
IMO you are overfiltering big time
I thought so. Will try above. Do you use motion estimate search or high quality in TMPGEnc for this?
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01-04-2005, 02:48 AM
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I would use motion estimation since it's faster. The slight CQ drop is unnoticable when you have the whole DVD for one movie.
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01-04-2005, 02:52 AM
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I would use motion estimation since it's faster. The slight CQ drop is unnoticable when you have the whole DVD for one movie.
The actual script I was using is:

Mpeg2Source("H:\trek\trek.d2v")
BicubicResize(672,448,0,0.6,0,0,720,480)
removegrain(mode=2)
asharp(1,4) #optional
TemporalSoften(2,4,6,6,2)
AddBorders(16,16,16,16)

Exactly how would your script look with this?
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01-04-2005, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Boulder
I would use motion estimation since it's faster. The slight CQ drop is unnoticable when you have the whole DVD for one movie.
The actual script I was using is:

Mpeg2Source("H:\trek\trek.d2v")
BicubicResize(672,448,0,0.6,0,0,720,480)
removegrain(mode=2)
asharp(1,4) #optional
TemporalSoften(2,4,6,6,2)
AddBorders(16,16,16,16)

Exactly how would your script look with this?
Code:
Mpeg2Source("H:\trek\trek.d2v",idct=7)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)
TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)
BicubicResize(672,448,0,0.6)
Limiter()
ConverttoRGB24()
AddBorders(16,16,16,16)
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01-04-2005, 03:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nicksteel
What scripts are now recommended for a one movie DVD to DVD with KDVD full template?. I've been using Phil's:

mpeg2Source("xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.d2v")
Crop(8,0,704,576) # for full screen
#Crop(8,16,704,544) # for 1.85
#Crop(8,72,704,432) # for 2.35

Fluxsmooth()
TemporalCleaner(5,10)
Undot()
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)

AddBorders(0,0,0,0) # for fullscreen
# AddBorders(0,16,0,16) # for 1.85
# AddBorders(0,72,0,72) # for 2.35

Letterbox(16,16,16,16) # overscan=2

Also, with this script, do I use "High quality (slow)" or "Motion estimate search (fast)" in TMPGEnc?
I just noticed that with these crop settings, you are first cropping to 704x480 (I'm using NTSC figures just for myself) and then applying an overscan of 2. I know I may have asked this before, but will there be any noticeable loss in detail from this? Would it be safer to keep the resolution at 720x480 with an overscan=2?
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05-17-2005, 02:22 AM
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Incredible can tell you that better than me but a standalone NEVER sends the 720 pixels to the TV set. The active area on a 720*480 is always 704*480. Then the TV eats the sides, as always, so you lose again 16 pixels on each sides.

Crop(704,480) + Letterbox(16,16,16,16) give you exactly the picture you see when you read the source.

Note: since then I changed my mind and use again a resize + addborder.
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05-17-2005, 07:47 AM
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On NTSC the TV Area max width is 712px (702px PAL) .... but as also NTSC People do deal with an overscan area on their TV Sets ... that means that the 704px also here are fully suficient.
So Phil is right by saying "Crop(704,480) + Letterbox(16,16,16,16)"
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05-17-2005, 08:04 AM
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I just wonder something Inc : do we have a proof that the 702 actives pixels are the ones from #8 to #711 and not #1 to #702 ?
I mean, why the SPA cuts both sides insteed of only "shorten' the lines by cutting only the right part ?
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05-17-2005, 09:04 AM
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The SAP cuts nothing

He provides a 720px width stream at 53,333s and 13,5mhz

So the TV 625Lines PAL Set does take it and shows it by 14,769mhz.


53,333us * 14,769mhz = 787,67px (offset out of bounds of 76.

So then its up to your TV Hardware setup HOW correctly the 53,333 are aligned horiz.-center-matched to the 52,000
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05-17-2005, 10:15 AM
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So then its up to your TV Hardware setup HOW correctly the 53,333 are aligned horiz.-center-matched to the 52,000
Ok, I thought that it was the SPA that produced 52s signals.
TV sets generally center the picutures, so everything is okay.
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05-17-2005, 10:57 AM
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When I checked my brandnew Panasonic 32" 16:9 ... I recognised that it was slightly off center ... so I had to go into the hidden Service Menue for setting a proper alignment.
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