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LadyMiles 12-19-2002 08:12 PM

Avisynth: Any great new settings for Animation?
 
Hi I am doing the Disney Film Little Mermaid with the KVCD LBR template (83 minutes) I have tried fluxsmooth, but the colores look smeared. Any filter suggestions

kwag 12-19-2002 09:02 PM

Re: Any great new settings for Animation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMiles
Hi I am doing the Disney Film Little Mermaid with the KVCD LBR template (83 minutes) I have tried fluxsmooth, but the colores look smeared. Any filter suggestions

Hi LadyMiles,

Change the GOP to 1-12-2-1-24 and try that :wink:
To get you up to date, read here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1969

-kwag

SansGrip 12-19-2002 09:21 PM

Re: Any great new settings for Animation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
To get you up to date, read here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1969

kwag, you're so mean giving her a 13-page thread to read :twisted:.

kwag 12-19-2002 11:03 PM

Re: Any great new settings for Animation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SansGrip
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
To get you up to date, read here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1969

kwag, you're so mean giving her a 13-page thread to read :twisted:.

It's a great read :D
That's the price to pay when someone goes on vacation for a week or so :mrgreen:
I couldn't imagine me taking a one month vacation 8O :lol:
At this speed, I wonder what we'll be doing a year from now :!:

-kwag

SansGrip 12-19-2002 11:46 PM

Re: Any great new settings for Animation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
It's a great read :D
That's the price to pay when someone goes on vacation for a week or so :mrgreen:

heheh I agree ;).

Quote:

I couldn't imagine me taking a one month vacation 8O :lol:
I think I speak for all of us when I say you must never take a vacation :D.

Quote:

At this speed, I wonder what we'll be doing a year from now :!:
1 CD, 5.1 AC3, 720x480
Track 1: The Green Mile
Track 2: Saving Private Ryan

:mrgreen:

kwag 12-20-2002 12:38 AM

Re: Any great new settings for Animation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SansGrip
1 CD, 5.1 AC3, 720x480
Track 1: The Green Mile
Track 2: Saving Private Ryan

:mrgreen:

You forgot Track 3: The 212 minute Ben-Hur :mrgreen:
http://www.thecinemalaser.com/dvd_re...en-hur-dvd.htm

-kwag

SansGrip 12-20-2002 12:53 AM

Re: Any great new settings for Animation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
You forgot Track 3: The 212 minute Ben-Hur :mrgreen:

:lol:

But seriously... Just think what we will be able to do when DVD-R finally becomes affordable... That's FOUR GIGS to play with 8O

syk2c11 12-20-2002 02:09 AM

Hi guys,
I am keeping a close eye on you people as to what can be done on DVD-R. In fact, don't you guys think the price of DVD-Rs is now reasonable?

BTW, I just called off my X'mas vacation! :P :D :P

kwag 12-20-2002 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syk2c11
Hi guys,
I am keeping a close eye on you people as to what can be done on DVD-R. In fact, don't you guys think the price of DVD-Rs is now reasonable?

BTW, I just called off my X'mas vacation! :P :D :P

:lol:
Well, DVD-Rs are much cheaper than they were 6 months ago, but the DVD-R to CD-R price ratio is still a lot. A CD-R is now, what, about 0.19$ each? It's still way way lower than a DVD-R. As far as play time on a DVD-R, I'm thinking on the new GOP and using DVDPatcher to put KVCDx3 528x480 material faked as 720x480 on a DVD-R. I've already done that ( but with a GOP of 18 MAX frames ), and tried it on 5 DVD players. Works perfectly :D So the future is bright :wink:

-kwag

SansGrip 12-20-2002 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
I'm thinking on the new GOP and using DVDPatcher to put KVCDx3 528x480 material faked as 720x480 on a DVD-R. I've already done that ( but with a GOP of 18 MAX frames ), and tried it on 5 DVD players. Works perfectly :D So the future is bright :wink:

Yummy 8). Can anyone say 5 movies per disc? 8O

kwag 12-20-2002 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SansGrip
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag
I'm thinking on the new GOP and using DVDPatcher to put KVCDx3 528x480 material faked as 720x480 on a DVD-R. I've already done that ( but with a GOP of 18 MAX frames ), and tried it on 5 DVD players. Works perfectly :D So the future is bright :wink:

Yummy 8). Can anyone say 5 movies per disc? 8O

Right now, 4 with KDVD half D-1 :wink:
Next month, who knows :lol:

-kwag

LadyMiles 12-20-2002 10:24 PM

@kwag

wow that thread is a little long. I would tell you why I have been absent for so long, but I don't want act like I am trying to get sympathy. But if you could Kwag could you simply just post your latest avs script

thanks

black prince 12-20-2002 10:46 PM

Hi LadyMiles,

1) Change the GOP in Tmpgenc to 1-12-2-1-24 and don't forget to
uncheck scene detection.

2) Below is the latest avs script example, I hope 8O, for KVCDx3.

LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\BlockBuster\BlockBuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\LegalClip\LegalClip.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\Temp\movie.d2v")
#
IL = Framecount / 50
SL = round(Framerate) * 2
SelectRangeEvery(IL, SL)
#
LegalClip()
LanczosResize(496,448)
Blockbuster( method="noise", detail_min=1, detail_max=10, variance=1, seed=1 )
AddBorders(16,16,16,16)
LegalClip()


There is a new Blockbuster 0.6 which uses Seed parameter. This
just sends the same frequency to keep file prediction from changing
after each test.

3) Use 0.98 as your file prediction factor, instead of 0.95 :)

4) If you really want to go all the way, check the first post by Kwag
and look a his second process with Tmpgenc and using Clip Frame.
I use it and it really does decrease file size and thus you can increase
CQ_VBR.

I hope this helps :roll:

I'm sure in the next hour the above will have changed, so don't think
Kwag and SanGrip are finished yet 8)

-black prince

jorel 12-20-2002 10:57 PM

Re: Any great new settings for Animation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMiles
Hi I am doing the Disney Film Little Mermaid with the KVCD LBR template (83 minutes) I have tried fluxsmooth, but the colores look smeared. Any filter suggestions

hy LadyMiles,
i encode monsters sa with this:
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....91eed8462f5dce

and more:
finding nemo,for the birds,mike new car and all litle storys,
in one 800mb cd with very good quality.

you have to try! :wink:

LadyMiles 12-21-2002 02:28 AM

My head is about to explode. I have to believe that things didn't used to happen this fast at KVCD.net. I think on one post I read about new template settings. Are we abandoning the old "StrengthValue = round (BB_StrengthConstant / BB_Resolution) " type script. Lancos resize is back in favor ? I think I am going to make a new thread just full of questions so I can get back up to speed.

black prince 12-21-2002 02:34 PM

@LadyMiles,

Quote:

My head is about to explode. I have to believe that things didn't used to happen this fast at KVCD.net.
hehehehe :mrgreen: Yep, it's coming quick and there are lots of
changes. BTW, Kwag favors BilinearResize. I use LanczosResize
beacuse to sharpens too. SansGrip believes sharpen is not necessary
if your source is very good. If I were you I would wait until things
calm down and there are some standards set after all this testing.
There seems to be more tweaking and changes coming up and
you might have to redo the process again. I like what's happening,
since my encodes are improving with each new change :D :D :D

-black prince

LadyMiles 12-23-2002 12:27 AM

Yeah the changes have been great. I just did Austin Powers 2 and it was perfect. The old kvcd templates used to give my dvd player trouble but apparently the new GOP structures may have fixed alot of sync problems.
I thik with the new filters people will fall more in love with Kwag's templates, because with each new filter the picture gets better. Plus the new cropping method really helps with size and hence quality.
One question should we check "detect scene change" under GOP in TMPGEnc ?

black prince 12-23-2002 10:25 AM

Hi LadyMiles,

LadyMiles wrote:
Quote:

One question should we check "detect scene change" under GOP in TMPGEnc ?
Uncheck detect scene change. Kwag forgot to correct this.
Here's a sample of the new and improved avs script:

LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\BlockBuster\BlockBuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\LegalClip\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Sampler\Sampler.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\Temp\movie.d2v")
#
Minutes = round((Framecount/Framerate)/60 )
SL = 24
Sampler(Minutes, SL)
#
LegalClip()
BilinearResize(336,224,0,0,720,480)
BlockBuster(method="noise", variance=1, seed=1 )
AddBorders(8,8,8,8 )
LegalClip()


The manual file prediction formula is:

((total frames / total minutes) / 24 ) * (test file size * .98 ) = est mpeg file

It's very accurate for predictions. Again, this may change in the next hour :mrgreen:

-black prince

SansGrip 12-23-2002 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black prince
It's very accurate for predictions. Again, this may change in the next hour :mrgreen:

I sure hope not heheheh.

black prince 12-23-2002 06:43 PM

Hi LadyMiles and SansGrip,

I told you it would change in an hour or so :mrgreen:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2068

-black prince


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