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01-23-2003, 11:43 PM
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version 5 of Dust is out to try...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=1

This version should greatly reduce the blockiness with motion issue. It has many internal changes.

Two new filters introduced.
GoldDust Heavy filtering for more serious problems. This one will definately blur the image, so it recommended you use it before resizing smaller.

SpaceDust This fast filter is spatial only. For those complaining about how slow Dust is
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01-24-2003, 12:20 AM
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It's PLAYTIME

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01-24-2003, 11:51 AM
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Is this version suppose to be any faster? It seems like it's still the same as the last version as far as speed.
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01-24-2003, 11:58 AM
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Is this version suppose to be any faster? It seems like it's still the same as the last version as far as speed.
Try SpaceDust() instead of FaeryDust(). That has been added to the new version.

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01-24-2003, 12:03 PM
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@ kwag...

I saw your Episode II Sample somewhere... well isn't that what you would call heavy letterboxing?? I suppose you used Overscan 2 right? See what I meant earlier when I said that TV Overscan also reduces height?

btw: Sample looks damn good for a 1 CD encode of this high action beast!
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01-24-2003, 12:11 PM
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@ kwag...

I saw your Episode II Sample somewhere... well isn't that what you would call heavy letterboxing?? I suppose you used Overscan 2 right? See what I meant earlier when I said that TV Overscan also reduces height?
It looks perfect on the TV. There are no borders on the sides. The TV stretches it flush with the edges, and looks the same aspect as the original DVD . Here's the script I used for that movie:


Code:
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\GripFit_preview.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\vobsub.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\convolution3d.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\dustv5.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\decomb.dll")

Mpeg2Source("J:\PHANTOM_MENACE\VIDEO_TS\phantom.d2v")
LegalClip() 
GripCrop( width=528, height=480, overscan=2 ) 
GripSize() 
#PixieDust()
SpaceDust()
Convolution3D(preset="movieLQ") 
Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.3, seed=1)
GripBorders() 
LegalClip() 

#Sampler(length=24) 
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##
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btw: Sample looks damn good for a 1 CD encode of this high action beast!
Yeah . I've been doing almost every ~2 hour movie on one CD with KVCDx3 and SansGrip's filters + Dust. It's good enough, and I don't need to change CD's in the middle of the movie

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01-24-2003, 12:13 PM
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Spacedust() cause a thin pink bar on the right side of the picture. It's just about the width of the overscan blocks. If i comment it out, the pink bar disappears. Any ideas? Here's my script:

LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\MPEG2DEC.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\fluxsmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Convolution3D.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DecombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Sampler.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\NoMoSmooth.dll")
Video1=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc1\LOTRDisc1.d2v")
Trim(Video1,0,189899)
Video2=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc2\LOTRDisc2.d2v")
Unalignedsplice(Video1,Video2)
Telecide()
Decimate()
LegalClip()
Gripcrop(352,480)
Letterbox(0,0,16,16)
Spacedust()
Convolution3d(preset="movieHQ")
Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize")
Gripborders()
LegalClip()
Sampler()
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01-24-2003, 12:23 PM
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Spacedust() cause a thin pink bar on the right side of the picture. It's just about the width of the overscan blocks. If i comment it out, the pink bar disappears. Any ideas?
No . I didn't get that on my encode. It's not visible in the sample.

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01-24-2003, 12:25 PM
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Weird. I can see it in TMPGEnc preview, and when i play the sample in WinDVD. There is no pink bar when i use Faerydust, it's only there when i use Spacedust.
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01-24-2003, 12:42 PM
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Weird. I can see it in TMPGEnc preview, and when i play the sample in WinDVD. There is no pink bar when i use Faerydust, it's only there when i use Spacedust.
Have you tried removing every filter, and only using spacedust
Just to see if it is an interaction with another filter

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01-24-2003, 12:44 PM
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No I haven't, I'll give that a try. Thanks.
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01-24-2003, 12:49 PM
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Spacedust() cause a pink bar on the right side of the picture.
sounds funny... why don't you leave it?
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01-24-2003, 01:11 PM
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why are you using Letterbox(0,0,16,16) ?
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01-24-2003, 05:03 PM
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Let me know if you find a solution to the pink-bar problem -- I've got the same issue..
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01-24-2003, 06:00 PM
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Smoochie3
why are you using Letterbox(0,0,16,16) ?
Well, someone asked how to you could have the TV overscan on just the sides without cutting any of the picture from the top and bottom, and from what i understand, using Letterbox(0,0,16,16) after Gripcrop() will accomplish that.

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Let me know if you find a solution to the pink-bar problem -- I've got the same issue..
I'm not at home right now, but if i figure it out i'll let you...and you do the same!
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01-24-2003, 08:03 PM
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Have you tried to put letterbox after spacedust() in your script?
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01-24-2003, 11:51 PM
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OK, I commented all the filters with "#", and the pink bar disappears. Then I removed the "#" for Gripcrop(352,480), Gripsize(resizer="LanczoseResize"), and the pink bar comes back. I also tried taking out the "resizer=LanczoseResize", but the pink bar is still there. So, Spacedust() must not like Gripcrop()/Gripsize().

so, with this script:
Code:
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\MPEG2DEC.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\fluxsmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Convolution3D.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DecombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Sampler.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\NoMoSmooth.dll")
Video1=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc1\LOTRDisc1.d2v")
Trim(Video1,0,189899)
Video2=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc2\LOTRDisc2.d2v")
Unalignedsplice(Video1,Video2)
Telecide()
Decimate()
#LegalClip()
#Gripcrop(352,480)
#Letterbox(0,0,16,16)
Spacedust()
#Convolution3d(preset="movieHQ")
#Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize")
#Gripborders()
#LegalClip()
Sampler()
There is NO pink bar.

But with this script:
Code:
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\MPEG2DEC.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\fluxsmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Convolution3D.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DecombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Sampler.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\NoMoSmooth.dll")
Video1=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc1\LOTRDisc1.d2v")
Trim(Video1,0,189899)
Video2=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc2\LOTRDisc2.d2v")
Unalignedsplice(Video1,Video2)
Telecide()
Decimate()
#LegalClip()
Gripcrop(352,480)
#Letterbox(0,0,16,16)
Spacedust()
#Convolution3d(preset="movieHQ")
Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize")
#Gripborders()
#LegalClip()
Sampler()
The Pink Bar Comes Back!

Any Ideas?
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01-24-2003, 11:55 PM
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Hi Smoochie3,

Did you take out Letterbox(0,0,16,16) line
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01-25-2003, 12:01 AM
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Quote:
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Hi Smoochie3,

Did you take out Letterbox(0,0,16,16) line
Yes, i commented it in both scripts i tried. I just figured out that if i place the Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize") immediately after the Letterbox(0,0,16,16) line, the pink bar disappears. Sooo...if i resize before applying the filters everything is ok. What would cause this?

recap:
This works:
Code:
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\MPEG2DEC.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\fluxsmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Convolution3D.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DecombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Sampler.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\NoMoSmooth.dll")
Video1=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc1\LOTRDisc1.d2v")
Trim(Video1,0,189899)
Video2=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc2\LOTRDisc2.d2v")
Unalignedsplice(Video1,Video2)
Telecide()
Decimate()
#LegalClip()
Gripcrop(352,480)
Letterbox(0,0,16,16)
Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize")
Spacedust()
#Convolution3d(preset="movieHQ")
#Gripborders()
#LegalClip()
Sampler()
This doesn't:
Code:
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\MPEG2DEC.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\fluxsmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Convolution3D.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DecombLegacy.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\Sampler.dll")
#LoadPlugin("D:\avfilters\NoMoSmooth.dll")
Video1=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc1\LOTRDisc1.d2v")
Trim(Video1,0,189899)
Video2=mpeg2source("E:\L\disc2\LOTRDisc2.d2v")
Unalignedsplice(Video1,Video2)
Telecide()
Decimate()
#LegalClip()
Gripcrop(352,480)
Letterbox(0,0,16,16)
Spacedust()
#Convolution3d(preset="movieHQ")
Gripsize(resizer="LanczosResize")
#Gripborders()
#LegalClip()
Sampler()
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01-25-2003, 09:39 AM
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Try:

Code:
GripCrop(352, 480, crop_round_width=8)
SpaceDust()
GripSize()
GripBorders()
Letterbox(0, 0, 16, 16)
IIRC Dust needs the clip's width to be a multiple of 8, and by default GripCrop makes it a multiple of 4.

Use Letterbox last to add your overscan borders left and right and don't do any filtering afterwards or you'll likely lose the pure black.
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