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06-09-2003, 11:29 AM
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BlockBuster(noise) should go after the filters. If not, the noise will be removed by filters :!:
Aplogies if that wasn't meant for me. BB noise in my divx script is supposed to be removed (= blended in) by the following ATC filter. The combination of these two helps randomise and smooth out flat areas that show many random flashing blocks in divx/xvid sources.

Try adding +175% contrast, +5% brightness to a divx source and looking at eg: background walls. Then add ATC, then BB, then BlindPP and then finally ASharp and observe the differences!

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You might want to add "Adaptive" BlockBuster(noise) :)
Thanks for that, I caught it on the other thread :) But in this case I'm adding detail adaptive noise not motion adaptive noise :) I'm still experimenting though (aren't we all?)
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I'm still experimenting though (aren't we all?)
Yes we are
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dirv just wondering how your experimentations were going on this thread! With so much emphasis on the latest optimal script, which is meant for clean DVD sources, I think other blocky divx/xvid sources have been forgotten. I'd love to hear where you are for this. All my divx-->kvcd encodes have a lot of mosquito noise and other crap. I'm sure some of it comes from already having a compressed source but I'd sure love an optimal script with MA filtering meant for these files!
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With so much emphasis on the latest optimal script, which is meant for clean DVD sources, I think other blocky divx/xvid sources have been forgotten.
What I think is that too much people forgot the purpose of KVCD is to make private copy or your own DVD.

I don't find we put emphasis on clean sources, we just talk about what we are supposed to talk.

I do not know a lot of people trying to turn into KVCD the divx they did of DVD they own.

Do you ?
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With so much emphasis on the latest optimal script, which is meant for clean DVD sources, I think other blocky divx/xvid sources have been forgotten.
What I think is that too much people forgot the purpose of KVCD is to make private copy or your own DVD.

I don't find we put emphasis on clean sources, we just talk about what we are supposed to talk.

I do not know a lot of people trying to turn into KVCD the divx they did of DVD they own.

Do you ?
I agree 100% with you Phil. However, there are also lots of noisy DVDs around, so a better script for noise reduction would be a good idea in my eyes.
But yes you're right. I don't see the point in making a DivX optimal script either, since you usually don't encode your own DVDs twice.
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With so much emphasis on the latest optimal script, which is meant for clean DVD sources, I think other blocky divx/xvid sources have been forgotten.
What I think is that too much people forgot the purpose of KVCD is to make private copy or your own DVD.

I don't find we put emphasis on clean sources, we just talk about what we are supposed to talk.

I do not know a lot of people trying to turn into KVCD the divx they did of DVD they own.

Do you ?
I agree 100% with you Phil. However, there are also lots of noisy DVDs around, so a better script for noise reduction would be a good idea in my eyes.
But yes you're right. I don't see the point in making a DivX optimal script either, since you usually don't encode your own DVDs twice.
and i am with you 2 !

how to backup your own dvd with the best quality in
short space and play the result in all pcs or dvd players

that is the central idea of KVCDs
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07-25-2003, 07:58 AM
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I don't own many DVD's but have a large collection of VHS tapes that I would like to digitize and store on CD. KVCD with the optimal Avisynth 2.08 script works quite well, but I am still eagerly awaiting an optimal MA script for VHS capture sources!
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07-25-2003, 08:39 AM
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Didn't think about that. We have to find a successor to FaeryDust usable in a MA script. That is something to think about

Note: just to know, did you try the MA script on VHS capture ?
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07-25-2003, 09:07 AM
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To be honest I haven't tried the MA Script at all, yet.



I recently had to re-configure my entire PC and finally got both versions of Avisynth working with Avisynthswitcher.

I'll try to run the MA Script on a VHS source this weekend.

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07-30-2003, 08:48 PM
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Are you guys still toying with Blockbuster? Have you tried this:
Blockbuster( method="dither",block_size=3,luma_offset=-2,luma_threshold=30,detail_min=1, detail_max=30 )
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07-30-2003, 09:26 PM
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Have you tried this:
Blockbuster( method="dither",block_size=3,luma_offset=-2,luma_threshold=30,detail_min=1, detail_max=30 )
Yep. And it's no good. Even SansGrip agreed, as it was only an experimental feature. The picture looks like if you are looking through a screen

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07-30-2003, 09:38 PM
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Alright then I'm just trying to get rid of these damn blocks on THE RECRUIT at the begining. I'm using the MA Script. They are less noticable on a progressive scan DVD player but I'm not in the market to buy one right now.
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07-30-2003, 10:45 PM
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Hi Holomatrix,

Try encoding with CQMatic, and encode as CQ_VBR with Blockbuster. That should get rid of the blocks

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07-31-2003, 10:11 AM
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Ok, so what script would I use then for TMPEG adding blockbuster? plus I can only encode to SVCD mpeg2 because my DVD player does not play KVCD well. Does that change anything?
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07-31-2003, 11:12 AM
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Ok, so what script would I use then for TMPEG adding blockbuster?
You can use the current script ( http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483 ) for AviSynth 2.52, and add your Blockbuster line after this code:
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SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2 
ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf >= SwitchThreshold ? \ 
unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ) : \ 
TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")
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plus I can only encode to SVCD mpeg2 because my DVD player does not play KVCD well. Does that change anything?
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No, not at all
But as your player can only play MPEG-2, you might also be able to use other resolutions at mpeg-2
Like 528x480(576). Have you tried that , and then mux as SVCD

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07-31-2003, 11:26 AM
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Ok, thanks, I will try that res but if I do, dosen't that drop the CQ alot? I still want to do one CD encodes. Since you don't recomend Blockbuster(dither) hows this-

16=SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
17=ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf >= SwitchThreshold ? \
18=unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ) : \
19=TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")
20=Blockbuster( method="noise", variance=.5, seed=1 )

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