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wow, with mergechroma and mergeluma one step of prediction lasts more than 30minutes
but the video seems to be sharper with those filters.
Drop nomosmooth and fluxsmooth. See if it sky rockets in speed

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wow, with mergechroma and mergeluma one step of prediction lasts more than 30minutes
but the video seems to be sharper with those filters.
Drop nomosmooth and fluxsmooth. See if it sky rockets in speed

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i just did , and the rocket is on itīs way
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What template are you using Pyro??
KVCDx3 with the resolution dropped to 480x480/576, as my player does not support 528 or 544 resolutions.
Ok, so you change the resolution in TMPGEnc to 480x480 but in your script you use GripCrop(480, 576) am I correct?

What does this mean "480x480/576" (the /576 sorry, I'm still a noob )

Aslo, should the resolution in your script match the resolution of the template?
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03-26-2003, 06:03 PM
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if you live in a PAL region you will use 480x576, if you live in NTSC land , you use 480x480

itīs just the difference between the two standards
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Drop nomosmooth and fluxsmooth. See if it sky rockets in speed

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should i just leave nomosmooth away when doing file prediction, or can i completely drop it, if i use mergechroma and mergeluma
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should i just leave nomosmooth away when doing file prediction, or can i completely drop it, if i use mergechroma and mergeluma
I'm not using nomo or flux anymore. I just use mergechroma+mergeluma+spacedust+C3D.
If it's a noisy source, then I use faerydust instead of spacedust.
The difference in file size, is not that much smaller by adding flux, nomo, or other filters. At least, that's what I've been able to experience.
Even SansGrip agreed once, that space + C3D was plenty. With the added bonus of merging chroma and luma, it's good enough

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03-26-2003, 06:51 PM
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I just use mergechroma+mergeluma+spacedust+C3D.


thatīs exactly my script

the sample looks great. now i will let ToK do the work and see what comes out
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the sample looks great. now i will let ToK do the work and see what comes out
If the sample looks great, then the full encode will also look great

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What about TemporalCleaner, should it be dropped as well? (just like nomo and flux) if MergeChrom & MergeLuma & Spacedust were used
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03-26-2003, 08:19 PM
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You might want to keep TemporalCleaner. It does reduce about ~80-100KB per minute, depending on the source. DVD sources are pretty clean, so it doesn't make that much difference. Leave it in there, as it's a very fast filter, and it won't slow down your encode

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Aslo, should the resolution in your script match the resolution of the template?
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Aslo, should the resolution in your script match the resolution of the template?
Yes. Otherwise you will be resizing with TMPGEnc.
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03-27-2003, 01:07 AM
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Ok, let me see if I've got this correct. If I have a regular DVD movie rip, which I believe has a resolution of 720x480 NTSC, and use the KVCDx3 template which has a resolution of 528x480, I should put in my script GripCrop(width=528, height=480) right?

Now if I want to resize the movie, I would do so in TMPEGEnc but leave my script as is or change it according to what I resized the movie to in TMPGEnc?

The final resolution in TMPGEnc is what determines if a movie will play in a player, not the resolution in the script right? Or is it both (resolution in TMPGEnc and script)?
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03-27-2003, 02:38 AM
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Ok, let me see if I've got this correct. If I have a regular DVD movie rip, which I believe has a resolution of 720x480 NTSC, and use the KVCDx3 template which has a resolution of 528x480, I should put in my script GripCrop(width=528, height=480) right?
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Now if I want to resize the movie, I would do so in TMPEGEnc but leave my script as is or change it according to what I resized the movie to in TMPGEnc?
You should use the same size in your GripCrop line as you use in TMPG. Otherwise you are doing unnecessary resizing with TMPG (TMPG is the final step in the video-creation process, so if you were to use GripCrop(width=528, height=480) in your avisynth script, but set the sizing in TMPG to 352x480 for example, you'd end up with an m1v file which is 352x480). counter-productive.

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The final resolution in TMPGEnc is what determines if a movie will play in a player, not the resolution in the script right? Or is it both (resolution in TMPGEnc and script)?
True, but you should use the same sizing in both for best results.

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03-27-2003, 06:49 AM
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I just use mergechroma+mergeluma+spacedust+C3D.

this combination is great!!!!!
i got the best results since i work with kvcd templates
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Hi I'm a newbie, so please excuse my question.
First I want to praise you all for this great work.
I want to encode a divx-avi to mpeg1 528*576 kvcd 102min on 1cd, bitrate 100-2500.
This is my script with recommendations from kwag (mergechroma and luma):

AviSource("V:\Monty_Python_Der_Sinn_des_Lebens.avi ")
ConvertToYUY2()
LegalClip()
LanczosResize(496, 384, 2, 7, 636, 346)
mergechroma(blur(1.58))
mergeluma(blur(0.05))
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ")
AddBorders(16, 96, 16, 96)
LegalClip()

But encoding with tok and tmpenc with cq63 after prediction
takes too long: 25h.
So which filter should I disable first to decrease time? mergechroma,mergeluma,SpaceDust,TemporalCleaner or Convolution3D?
Or bilinearresize/bicubic instead of LanczosResize?
I don't need highest quality as possible, but I love sharp pictures.
Could anybody help me please.

Second question: where can I find avs script templates for different sources (vhs, dvd...). I have been serching for the last 3hours.
Thank You!
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03-28-2003, 10:42 AM
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Hi feldi,

First of all, what processor/speed do you have
For different filters, you can download MovieStacker or SwiftAVS, and there you can select different filters that you want. For example, different presets for Convolution3D, etc

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03-28-2003, 12:49 PM
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Only 700mhz AMD Duron - I know it's not the best.
Now I don't use C3D and it's much faster: about 15h.
What do you think, is this the best compromise?
Should I always use mergechroma and blur (with the settings in my script).
Is my script ok (made with movie stacker)?
Is lanzsos-resize the best choice?

Too many questions? -please forgive me.

Thanks, feldi
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03-28-2003, 12:57 PM
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Hi feldi,

Your processor speed is not the best option for encoding
As you did, removing the slowest filters will increase speed, at the cost of quality
Try Bicubic resize instead of Lanczos. It's not as sharp as lanczos, but it is sharper that bilinear.
Your script is good

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03-28-2003, 11:57 PM
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[quote="kwag"]I'm not using nomo or flux anymore. I just use mergechroma+mergeluma+spacedust+C3D.
If it's a noisy source, then I use faerydust instead of spacedust.
My source is kind of "noisy" because it's not DVD, it's SVCD. On top of that, my SVCD source is split into 2 cds and I want to squeeze them into one with KVCD settings. I do notice some blockiness, visible in the out of focus backgrounds and in light gradients (like spotlights or a sunbeam).

So what filters would you add on top of that? Would you go up to pixiedust? And I know you've said many times that Blockbuster isn't needed at KVCDx3 resolutions, but because my source is SVCD I'm encoding at 480x480. So I'd love to hear what filters/settings I should try. Thanks!
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