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How about atc by Marc FD: http://ziquash.chez.tiscali.fr/
That's a good option
It has to be tried
Right now, I'm having a ball with this new dynamic filter, just as it is I've been able to increase the CQ by 3 to 4 values higher that previous encodes

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If you stop the Cam when is moving you can see all Blur witch is the Idea here because the eye is just to slow to see that, so i gather that will benefit from this with a high action movie.
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Bourne identity man i had a headache with that movie i wasnt able to get a good encode out of that one. Specially with the begining of the movie.
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If you stop the Cam when is moving you can see all Blur witch is the Idea here because the eye is just to slow to see that, so i gather that will benefit from this with a high action movie.
Exactly
You can't see details anyway on high speed pannings, and this way we achieve maximum compression
The way I see it, is that this can be wrapped up in a function with "Selectors", so we can "plug" different filters at different thresholds. For example, we could have "blockbuster noise" ONLY when there's no action AND the scene is dark
So we can use static filters and mold them for use in dynamic scenes
Now this is really fun

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By the way, TemporalSmoother is not available for AviSynth 2.51... So we gotta find something different there!
Maybe this: TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)

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Just when.......

Brilliant development. Loved the clip. Kwag what file size difference are you getting for same CQ? Can't wait to try.

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05-28-2003, 12:02 AM
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Kwag what file size difference are you getting for same CQ? Can't wait to try.
Just to give you an idea, that 4 second sample clip with a fixed:
mergeluma(blur(0.2))
is ~100KB+ larger than the same clip with:
ScriptClip("val=YDifferenceFromPrevious()/14.55" + "val > MaxThreshold ? MergeLuma(blur(MaxThreshold)) : MergeLuma(blur( val ))")
So you figure what the gain will be on a complete movie


Edit: Current script thread updated

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05-28-2003, 01:42 AM
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Wow.....10% right there on that clip.

Extraordinary !!!
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05-28-2003, 03:04 AM
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KWAG :
"The way I see it, is that this can be wrapped up in a function with "Selectors", so we can "plug" different filters at different tresholds. For example, we could have "blockbuster noise" ONLY when there's no action AND the scene is dark
So we can use static filters and mold them for use in dynamic scenes "
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@ Kwag !!!
Brilliant , Just BRILLIANT !!!
I love this script and clip is something too!!!!
I would love very much to get Blockbuster work dinamically cos it's dropping down CQ about 3-5 units and with this script maybe we could return to CQ without BlockBuster ??!!!
Excellent work , man !!!
I feel it's going to be hot in here , hu-u-u-h
What about encoding speed ???
Does this script affect encoding speed anyway ???
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05-28-2003, 09:20 AM
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Hi bman,

First, let's thank the people who made this possible, in the correct order
(1) sbin, for starting this thread, and pointing us to "another" link
(2) sagittaire, for the original idea and original script.
(3) Tenra, for shrinking the complete idea way down to a very simpler script
(4) Everyone here that has made comments and has interest in this stuff
And now the script is even smaller, and with a "cap" condition, not to go over the MAX value allowed, still in a single line
So it fits nicely in the "current script", it just simply substituted the old "mergeluma" line
I haven't done any speed benchmark, but actually the speed is faster with AviSynth 2.5x than with 2.0x. I will do a full encode today to see the stability of AviSynth 2.51. And yes, I think this will become a VERY hot thread. And I LOVE the results just as they are right now

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05-28-2003, 10:02 AM
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First , I agree with u KWAG and THANX to ALL those wonderful ppl who takes this tread and forum forward in right order as KWAG wrote
Second , I already sead once - In this FORUM we get excitement almoast every week and cos of that we are here
Every time different tread with original ideas and tweacks
I just love this !
NOW back To the business !
@ KWAG !
Any thoughts how exectly can BlockBuster work In similar conditional Script ?
It have to be operated by brightness value , Right ???
If brightness<val then Blockbuster("noise") something like that ???
bman
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05-28-2003, 12:54 PM
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Oh, man! I really wanted to try out this new exciting script. But when I'm trying to load the script into TMPGEnc I get the following error:

Script error: there is no function named "ScriptClip"

Has anybody else got this error? What am I doing wrong?
This is what my script looks like:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\UnFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\STMedianFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\TemporalCleaner.dll")

MPEG2Source("D:\DVD Rips\The Score\The Score.d2v")

MaxThreshold=1.58

FieldDeinterlace()
# Telecide()
# Decimate()
UnFilter(50, 50)
BilinearResize(480, 576)
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0)
TemporalSoften(2, 7, 7, 3, 2)
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
## Dynamic linear adaptive filtering ##
ScriptClip("val=YDifferenceFromPrevious()/14.55" + "val > MaxThreshold ? MergeLuma(blur(MaxThreshold)) : MergeLuma(blur( val ))")
##
Limiter()
ConvertToRGB()

Please help me out here guys!
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05-28-2003, 12:58 PM
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But when I'm trying to load the script into TMPGEnc i get the following error:

Script error: there is no function named "ScriptClip"
Hi audioslave,

Maybe you have an older version of AviSynth 2.5x
Get the latest here: http://cultact-server.novi.dk/kpo/avisynth/avs_cvs.html

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Got a can I install avisynth 2.51 and still have 2.0 install will there be any conflict by having the two install at the same time? I know there is a way but don't know how, andale Kwag.

BTW these thread is hotter then todays DAY in the Island.
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Damn Kwag, that was fast! I'll try the version you linked to. If I'm still having problems I'll let you know... Hold on a minute... Downloading...

Okay, Kwag, you were absolutely right! The new version worked! Thanks alot!

BTW what exactly are the resize parameters and what do they do?
Another question: To use "TemporalSoften" I need to load "TemporalCleaner.dll" for AviSynth, don't I?
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NOW back To the business !
@ KWAG !
Any thoughts how exectly can BlockBuster work In similar conditional Script ?
It have to be operated by brightness value , Right ???
If brightness<val then Blockbuster("noise") something like that ???
bman
Like this

Code:
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\STMedianFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\UnFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\BlockBuster.dll")

Mpeg2Source("K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\bourne.d2v")

MaxThreshold=1.58

UnFilter(50, 50)
BicubicResize(528, 480, 0, 0.6, 8, 0, 704, 480)
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 )
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
mergechroma(blur(1.50))

### Dynamic Adaptive Filtering ###
val=0 # Initialize our motion variable.
N="noise"
Subnoise="Noise Applied"
FrameEvaluate("val=YDifferenceFromPrevious()/14.55") # Assign "val" with difference between current frame and last frame.
ScriptClip("val > MaxThreshold ? MergeLuma(blur(MaxThreshold)) : MergeLuma(blur( val )) ") # Adaptive mergeluma.
ScriptClip("val < 0.3 ? BlockBuster(method=N, detail_min=1, detail_max=10, variance=((1/val)*10), seed=0).Subtitle(String(Subnoise),1,30) : val >1 ? blur(1.58).Subtitle(String(SubBlur),1,30):blur(val)")
ScriptClip("Subtitle(String(val))")
Limiter()
And you get this: www.kvcd.net/test-dynamic-blur-noise.mpg
I've over enhanced the "noise" so that the results are obvious, but I assume you get the idea of what can be accomplished now
Enjoy the show

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Got a can I install avisynth 2.51 and still have 2.0 install will there be any conflict by having the two install at the same time? I know there is a way but don't know how, andale Kwag.

BTW these thread is hotter then todays DAY in the Island.
yes ovg64,
use AvisynthSwitcher

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20939#20939
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Cool Kwag!
What parameters do you have to change (for BlockBuster) to get rid of the text in the top of the picture and to get a "normal" amount of noise? Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, but I have no idea on how these new scripts work...

@Kwag
Does your latest posted script include the linear "MergeLuma" function for low/medium/high action scenes as included in the Optimal Script?

I also need to get help with the resize issue.
1) How does "BicubicResize" work, and what does the parameters stand for?
2) Is it possible to use "BilinearResize" instead?
I'm normally coding PAL movies so I need help with the resize parameters for PAL movies (usually 16:9). Preferably for both Bilinear and Bicubic resizing...
3) How do I set up TMPGEnc to get the correct aspect ratio?

A lot of questions, I know....
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I'm trying to encode AVS2.51 but can't find unfilter() function and can't get vsfilter() working
Any help where to get right versions of those 2
bman
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Cool Kwag!
What parameters do you have to change (for BlockBuster) to get rid of the text in the top of the picture and to get a "normal" amount of noise? Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, but I have no idea on how these new scripts work...
Just remove the lines that say "SubTitle"
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@Kwag
Does your latest posted script include the linear "MergeLuma" function for low/medium/high action scenes as included in the Optimal Script?
There is no low/medium/high Linear is linear, which means it varies from a minimum value to a maximum value on a linear scale, depending on activity. There are no sharp "boundaries" on the MergeLuma adaptive line as with the original Low/Medium/High script. That's the beauty of it
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I also need to get help with the resize issue.
1) How does "BicubicResize" work, and what does the parameters stand for?
Use MovieStacker to get your parameters. I like BiCubic more that BiLinear, because it gives me a sharper picture.
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2) Is it possible to use "BilinearResize" instead?
Read above.
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I'm normally coding PAL movies so I need help with the resize parameters for PAL movies (usually 16:9). Preferably for both Bilinear and Bicubic resizing...
3) How do I set up TMPGEnc to get the correct aspect ratio?
Set it to "Full screen", and the scripts generated with MovieStacker will automatically create the correct aspect.
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A lot of questions, I know....


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