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I recently updated my version of DVD2SVCD to the latest version of DVD2SVCD 1.1.3 build 2. I also opted to try out the 2.51 version of AVS only to find out that all of my favorite filters do not work with this new version of AVS. I was able to find new versions of most of them, here http://www.avisynth.org/~warpenterprises/. But by reading and searching the AVS forum I found, that by downloading the warpsharp package , I could use all of them!! The package contains a "LoadPluginEx.dll" that will allow you to use most 2.0 filters. Simply add a "LoadPluginEx.dll" line to your "DVD2SVCD.ini" file
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Hopefully, it will help Kwag and us do better stuff!
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Does this mean we can start using AviSynth 2.51 now?
Is it faster than 2.08?
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05-28-2003, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PyRoMaNiA
Does this mean we can start using AviSynth 2.51 now?
Is it faster than 2.08?
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35% percent faster if you use the new default color space (YV12).
But some filters like temporalsmoother used in the "optimal script" work only in YUY2. Then the gain isn't so important.
For my part, I decided to use other filters )
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friends, please read this :
deserve more tests ,see what i got:
with avisynth 208:
Encoding... CQ : 60,000
Final Encoded Size: 7.990.528<---------less size
Total Time (all operations): 00:04:28<-----more time
with avisynth 251:
Encoding... CQ : 60,000
Final Encoded Size: 8.027.452<--------more size
Total Time (all operations): 00:04:24<-----less time
i'm doing more tests
someone did tests
more....
AvisynthSwitcher 0.2
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20939#20939
read about
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...isynthswitcher
edited...i wrote wrong version of avisynth.
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results from new test:
using the same source only changing the avisynth version
of course, using converttoyuy2() with avisynth251,
this is the only difference in the scripts used for tests.
with avisynth208:
script1-
Encoding... CQ : 60,000
Final Encoded Size: 8.133.225<-----less
Total Time (all operations): 00:03:32<-----more
script2-
Encoding... CQ : 60,000
Final Encoded Size: 8.589.198<-----less
Total Time (all operations): 00:04:05<-----more
with avisynth251:
script1-
Encoding... CQ : 60,000
Final Encoded Size: 8.169.729<-----more
Total Time (all operations): 00:03:26<-----less
script2-
Encoding... CQ : 60,000
Final Encoded Size: 8.760.655<-----more
Total Time (all operations): 00:03:31<-----less
did anyone test it?
i got less time with version251 but more size and
got more time with version258 but less size.
edited...i wrote(again)the wrong version of avisynth.
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Originally Posted by jorel
results from new test:
using the same source only changing the avisynth version
of course, using converttoyuy2() with avisynth251,
this is the only difference in the scripts used for tests.
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Why "of course" ? For sure you don't have a big gain in time if you convert to YUY2. This is the operation that take you the biggest part of your encoding time
Try to remove this line (and if some filters complain because they need to have YUY2, comment them out, we just doing test there no ? ).
You will have a _big_ difference !
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you surely mean 208, don't you ?
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05-28-2003, 09:40 AM
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[quote="Dialhot"] Quote:
Originally Posted by jorel
results from new test:
using the same source only changing the avisynth version
of course, using converttoyuy2() with avisynth251,
this is the only difference in the scripts used for tests.
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Why "of course" ? For sure you don't have a big gain in time if you convert to YUY2. This is the operation that take you most of the part of your encoding time
Try to remove this line (and if some filters complain because they need to have YUY2, comment them out, we just doing test there no ? ).
You will have a _big_ difference !
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with avisynth258[\quote]
you surely mean 208, don't you ?
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but if i don't use converttoyuy2() some filters don't work in 251 version!
legalclip is an example...
or i'm loosing some informations?!?!?!
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05-28-2003, 09:48 AM
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but if i don't use converttoyuy2() some filters don't work in 251 version!
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The only one that I know (and then don't use) is temporalsmoother !
That's the only one that is not converted to YUY2. But for all the other filters you have to use the 251 version of the filter ! Not the 208 and the (not so) famous "loadpluginex.dll".
QUITE ALL FILTERS HAVE A 251 VERSION. Go to http://www.avisynth.org/~warpenterprises and you'll see.
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legalclip is an example...
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LegalClip has a builtin equivalent within AVS251 called Limiter.
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or i'm loosing some informations?!?!?!
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If think so, but this forum is there to give you all informations, no ?
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Originally Posted by jorel
but if i don't use converttoyuy2() some filters don't work in 251 version!
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The only one that I know (and then don't use) is temporalsmoother !
That's the only one that is not converted to YUY2. But for all the other filters you have to use the 251 version of the filter ! Not the 208 and the (not so) famous "loadpluginex.dll".
QUITE ALL FILTERS HAVE A 251 VERSION. Go to http://www.avisynth.org/~warpenterprises and you'll see.
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legalclip is an example...
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LegalClip has a builtin equivalent within AVS251 called Limiter.
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or i'm loosing some informations?!?!?!
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If think so, but this forum is there to give you all informations, no ?
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ok friend,
i want to read more.
but unfilter,legalclip,msharp,firlddeinterlace...
don't work without converttoyuy2() in my 98se.
and i got big sizes in my tests,did you see?
can you help more?
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please,help me to remove my doubt:
test this script using avisynth 251... without converttoyuy2()
and post the result please cos in my system don't work:
FieldDeinterlace()
unfilter(50,50)
BicubicResize(448,448,0,0.6,0,0,720,480)
AddBorders(16,16,16,16)
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Originally Posted by jorel
but unfilter,legalclip,msharp,firlddeinterlace...
don't work without converttoyuy2() in my 98se.
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Did you used the AVS251 version ?
I use unfilter in YV12, fieddeinterlace also. Legalclip have to be replaced by Limiter has I told you above. And I don't use msharp.
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and i got big sizes in my tests,did you see?
can you help more?
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I never made any test on the size, just on the encoding time. BTW, the size difference you had isn't so big, no ?
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Originally Posted by jorel
please,help me to remove my doubt:
test this script using avisynth 251... without converttoyuy2()
and post the result please cos in my system don't work:
FieldDeinterlace()
unfilter(50,50)
BicubicResize(448,448,0,0.6,0,0,720,480)
AddBorders(16,16,16,16)
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Sorry, I can't do this in my office and I'll be far from my own PC for one week (vacation). But I'm sure someone will be glad to test it for us
Else I'll do it when I come back.
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from ToK log results with unfilter i got:
avisynth251 8.169.729
avisynth208 8.133.225
8.169.729 - 8.133.225 = 36.504...more
for 00:01:07 used in sample.
not too big for 00:01:07 but
will be huge for full movie
thanks friend,i understand your reason...(vaction).
edited...
3 times with stup....wrote wrong version of avisynth.
now is ok...the version is 208
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05-28-2003, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jorel
from ToK log results with unfilter i got:
avisynth251 8.169.729
avisynth258 8.133.225
8.169.729 - 8.133.225 = 36.504...more
for 00:01:07 used in sample.
not too big for 00:01:07 but
will be huge for full movie
thanks friend,i understand your reason...(vaction).
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Hi Jorel !
Were did u get avisynth 2.58
bman
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sorry friend, i'm using 208.
thanks.
anyone did tests like me?
ps:
download the last warpsharp:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-PaloAlto/2382/
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