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10-12-2003, 10:00 AM
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Hi folks!

I pulled myself together and implemented a new idea into MipSmooth, along with some bugfixes, speedup and adjustments. I'm quite happy with the filter now, and see it as a good replacement for smartsmooth, C3D and a supplement to VagueDenoiser.

Changelist:

v1.0
* Two new SuperMip modes. These mode reduces artifacts greatly.
* Massive speedup - this requires an AviSynth dated October 11th or later. This will give a >100% speedup.
* Scenechange values can be float values.
* Presets adjusted (preserves more detail in general).
* Fixed: Nasty bug that provided wrong thresholds on first mip. Quality improved!
* Fixed: Mips have a minimum size (16x16 pixels) to avoid resizer crashes.
* Added resolution checks to avoid crashes.


As it has hit v1.0 I now see it as "production ready", and with the latest cvs binary it is also quite speedy. It can also be used for a nice gaussian-like blur.

Download from: http://cultact-server.novi.dk/kpo/av...mipsmooth.html.
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WOW! This looks great!

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10-12-2003, 02:12 PM
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Yeah, its working very good on my animes.
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10-14-2003, 09:27 AM
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I looked at the filter and I was stupefied, from what my eyes saw it was just as good of quality or near, with deen and C3d, but the compression was a lot more . I have a question though can you put it in a conditional filtering, so it will speed things up and if it’s not a stupid idea can you post a script.

P.S. just an FYI I used it on a anime clip using animeHQ and change the method to strong.
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10-14-2003, 09:45 AM
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Conditional filtering (at least, the way we use it in MA script) need a spatial only filter.

As MipSmooth is a Spatio-Temporal filter, I'm not sure we can use it in conditional filtering.

Now, we can try to use it insteed of StmedianFilter for instance.
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10-18-2003, 05:20 PM
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Hi all:
Following Dialhot's comment in this thread, I have recently tried MipSmooth filter in my last KVCD. It is a video capture of the film "Total Recall". In the MA script, I substituted the STmedianFilter with MipSmooth filter. My experience:

-a bit slower than the MA (a 5 minute sample lasted 10 min with MA, and 16 min with MipSmooth. After updating AviSynth to 10-11-03 it lasted 13 min to encode)
-with movieHQ, I think better image than with STmedianFilter. With movieLQ, similar, and with VHS, too much blurred
-the file final size was bigger, so I had to lower de CQ from 79 with MA (CQmatic prediction) to 70, but, to my opinion, with very good quality (352x576)
-CQmatic failed (prediction 80, I had to go to 70): due to the new filter?

I´m very satisfied with the result. Congratulation sh0dan.
Two questions:
1. what settings of the MipSmooth filter are supposed to be similar to the effect of STmedianFilter in the MA script?. If they can be compared
2. as new filters appear (MipSmooth, VagueDenoiser), wouldn't it be possible to improve even more the MA script quality by making use of them?. I know that they're slower by now, but I guess they'll be improved. What do you think?. Is it time to revise the MA script?.
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10-18-2003, 05:51 PM
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I know that they're slower by now, but I guess they'll be improved. What do you think?. Is it time to revise the MA script?.
Don't worry, work (and tests) isn't finished on MA script. VagueDenoiser was already tested, and I plan to make some on Mipsmooth. I guess others are doing so.
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10-19-2003, 12:00 PM
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I don't know why, but something is not working right on my system using MipSmooth 1.0 and the October 11 version of AviSynth.

It doesn't matter where I put MipSmooth in the script (tried before and after resizing with preset MovieHQ), TMPGEnc doesn't start encoding, instead the Remaining Time goes up to 99:99:99 if I wait long enough...
No problems with other filters... Any ideas?
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10-20-2003, 10:31 AM
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Hi Dialhot:
I remember I read that thread on VagueDenoiser. The filter was even thought to be able to "substitute" the MA script. And I think it was also used in the adaptative section, instead of temporalsoften. I tried it but gave me bigger sized files with similar quality to MA alone.
What about the parameters to be used with MipSmooth, in order to get a similar effect to STmedianFilter?.
Do you think they can be used together (MipSmooth and VagueDenoiser) in a script?. If so, how would the script "look" like?.
My knowledge is small, but I can help with testing.
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10-20-2003, 10:53 AM
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MipSmooth is a spatio-temporal filter but we use spatial only part of STMedian filter in MA script. So it is not esay to use MipSmooth insteed of STMedian without rethinking at least a part of the process.

For the same reason, you can't use VagueDenoiser (spatial only) insteed of temporalsoften(temporal only)
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10-20-2003, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
So it is not esay to use MipSmooth insteed of STMedian without rethinking at least a part of the process.
... rethinking, that's the thing I don't do well (but just when talking about avisynth scripting... at least as far as I know).
I didn't really know much about the filters, as you can see. I just realised that substituting STmedianFilter with MipSmooth gave better visual results to my eyes, in this film. As soon as you find the way to make them work better in the MA script, we're sure you´ll make us know.
That's what makes this forum so active and so usefull. Thanks to all.
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10-20-2003, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by digitall.doc
The filter was even thought to be able to "substitute" the MA script.
Not so ( at least not yet!).
Vague is not adaptive at all. It's a static filter, and applies to all frames.
It's still very slow compared to the Motion Adaptive script.

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