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FuPP, thanks!


i'm changing to

GripCrop(720,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)

ok?
my source and target are ntsc and the tests for KDVD !
the remainder lines are the same.

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Jorel, you should trust me and do your KDVD in anamorphic.
I know you don't have the money to buy a widescreen TV but... in 5 years ell TV set sold will be widescreen. Taht means that in 10 years, you will have one.

And this day, you will be very sad with all your 4:3 KDVD.

Moreover a lot of 4:3 TV are anamorphic compatible. And the picture is far better than with a 4:3 letterboxed one.
How is yours ?
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results using toy story 1
2000 frames = 01:23.45

Asharp(1,3)
Levels(0,1.04,255,0,255)
GripCrop(720,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)
HybridFuPP(preset="medium",width = GripFit_resize_width, height = GripFit_resize_height)
GripBorders()
ConvertToYUY2()
trim(13000,15000)

time to encode---> 04:28 ----> champ
size---> 17,4Mb = 17818Kb

and:

undot()
Limiter()
asharp(1, 4)
Levels(0,1.04,255,0,255)
GripCrop(720,480,overscan=1,source_anamorphic=true ,dest_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")
GripBorders()
Limiter()
function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}
ConvertToYUY2()
trim(13000,15000)

Time to encode---> 09:01
size---> 16,3Mb = 16716Kb ---> champ

differences:
despicable, very tiny or nothing...very hard to see!

ilustrations (not real):
FuPP script is 1% sharp
Kwag script is 1% better red.

was used:
Asharp(1,3) in the FuPP script
asharp(1, 4) in the Kwag script
and the same
Levels(0,1.04,255,0,255)
in the scripts only to encrease details !

FuPP script is faster!
Kwag script give more compression!
general quality:
AMAZING in all results!
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Jorel, you should trust me and do your KDVD in anamorphic.
I know you don't have the money to buy a widescreen TV but... in 5 years ell TV set sold will be widescreen. Taht means that in 10 years, you will have one.

And this day, you will be very sad with all your 4:3 KDVD.

Moreover a lot of 4:3 TV are anamorphic compatible. And the picture is far better than with a 4:3 letterboxed one.
How is yours ?
oh yes Phil,
i will follow your recomendations but see (using my original dvds)

toy story 1 is 16:9, (black bars top/bottom)
toy story 2 is 4:3 (full screen)
bugs life is 4:3 too.
i want to do 1 KDVD with this 3 cartoons!

just post the "resize" parameters for each, and i use !
please!


.....10 years is too long time!
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03-26-2004, 06:12 PM
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Hi jorel,

For the resolution you're using, and if your source is a clean DVD (which probably is!), remove the line:
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
That will give you a boost in speed, without any visual difference. File size should still be about the same as without the line.

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a few remarks :

1/ HybridFuPP does already oversharpening, asharp is therefore not needed. If you want to sharp even more, use E_Str_X and E_Str_Y parameters, ortherwise let defaults.

2/ I think I would have put levels after filtering

3/ Did you use the latest alpha I sent to you, 0.861 ?

4/ I'm quiet surprised by speed results : I thought I had read somewhere on this forum that MA was faster

FuPP
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ABout the resizing i thought you were just supposed to use something like this

LanczosResize(496, 334, 4, 0, 712, 480 From moviestacker

Crop(4, 0, 712, 480 )
HybridFuPP(496, 334, Preset="High", Chroma=False)

Is this not OK anymore

@ Fupp

I am no where near the intelligence of most people here but this is the script i'm using (this is taking directly from a post by Audioslave,thanks buddy )

Code:
Mpeg2Source("D:\DVD Rip\Pitch Black\Pitch Black.d2v") 
#LanczosResize(448, 256, 6, 58, 712, 362) 
Crop(6, 58, 712, 362) 
HybridFuPP(448, 256, Preset="High", Chroma=False) 
AddBorders(16, 112, 16, 112)

Is there anything i should change because i see you told Jorel not to use Chroma=False.Remember i don't know alot i just want the best encode i can get

No posts in this thread for days and i get home from work and there are 3 new pages

Thanx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kwag
Hi jorel,

For the resolution you're using, and if your source is a clean DVD (which probably is!), remove the line:
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
That will give you a boost in speed, without any visual difference. File size should still be about the same as without the line.

-kwag
#STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
time to encode---> 03:22 ---> champ
size ---> 16,4Mb = 16837Kb ---> champ

champ!

differences/quality
colors are the same, FuPP script is 1% sharp like ilustrations!

FuPP wrote:
"Did you use the latest alpha I sent to you, 0.861 ? "
no, was used the 084b!
where is the 0.861 ?


MA faster ?
removing
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
is faster and short!
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03-26-2004, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jorel
#STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
time to encode---> 03:22 ---> champ
size ---> 16,4Mb = 16837Kb ---> champ

champ!
Now we're talking

-kwag
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03-26-2004, 06:45 PM
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@ Jorel

should be in your private box

@bigggt

HybridFuPP doesn't need a resizer prior to it. No need of lanczos...
Code:
Crop(6, 58, 712, 362) 
HybridFuPP(448, 256, Preset="High", Chroma=False) 
AddBorders(16, 112, 16, 112)
is ok.

if your version is (unofficial) 0.85, I suggest you to put chroma=true.

FuPP
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It's really hard to believe Hybrid is so fast

Jorel, if you include the Gripcrop trick that FuPP has describe you can do all your movies withotu having to bother yourself with resize parameters : theyt will be computed automatically for each movie.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dialhot
It's really hard to believe Hybrid is so fast

Speed test. Speed test. Speed test.

-kwag
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Thanx Fupp


So this is better then since i'm using 85a

Code:
Mpeg2Source("D:\DVD Rip\Pitch Black\Pitch Black.d2v") 
HybridFuPP(448, 256, Preset="High", Chroma=True) 
AddBorders(16, 112, 16, 112)
@ Jorel

are you using exact same settings in Tmpenc for both scripts(ie-high quality and motionestimate)

just want to try some tests
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right FuPP,
i got the 0.861 version ( ~5,37Kb size)
thanks!

time to encode ---> 04:03
size ---> 16,9Mb = 17357Kb

quality ?
the same like ilustrations!


@ Kwag:
i forgot to confirm:
yes, my dvds are (Disney) originals, very clean and new!


@ Phil:
where is my "resizes" for my 3 movies posted?
i will follow your recomendations!
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03-26-2004, 07:15 PM
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@kwag

FuPP is a slow brain. His scripts are therefore not intended to be the fastest ones...
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@jorel

did you finally remove asharp ?
what do you mean by "the same like ilustrations! "
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@Bigggt



@kwag

FuPP is a slow brain. His scripts are therefore not intended to be the fastest ones...
@ FuPP:
ilustrations (not real):
FuPP script is 1% sharp
Kwag script is 1% better red.

@ all
i can say :
very cool too!

Kwag and FuPP scripts are

never see this quality before!!!


@ Phil
Phil,i read your post but have doubts,please explain again!
(never forget, i'm stup with horrible english)
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03-26-2004, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
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@kwag

FuPP is a slow brain. His scripts are therefore not intended to be the fastest ones...
Ok
In the end, quality is what matters.
But hopfully not as slow as waiting for the social security retirement checks

-kwag
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@jorel : I'm not sure you've seen my previous post...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jorel
@ Phil:
where is my "resizes" for my 3 movies posted?
i will follow your recomendations!
You don't want to use Gricrop so ?
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