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kwag 03-02-2004 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audioslave
@kwag
Yes. FuPP's script really makes the whole movie look sharper and "cleaner". No offence maestro. :wink:

Well, I guess I'll just have to improve the MA script it even further ;)
But then again, if FuPP gives better quality and smaller file size, then I just rather burry the MA script :mrgreen:
( It did serve us very well :cry: ) :lol:
R.I.P. MA script :hihi:

-kwag

audioslave 03-02-2004 09:47 PM

:mrgreen:

incredible 03-02-2004 09:49 PM

Great Audioslave! Pics do look awesome, as I told in my sample above I treated a capture with HybridFupps() preset "Low", means much spatio-temporal filtering.

I recognised that this script still does take more time then MA but it behaves much more dynamically, means sharpen "static" objects, clean surfaces (really clean and not plain if a good source is used like dvd) and unsharpener moving objects.

So Karl I think we can't do say something about the compression effectively of that script according to the pics Audioslave posted, cause in the whole stream there will be some fast motion scenes which will be treated heavier in their parts within the frame.
I did not made an encoding till now but many users at doom9.org did report a higher compression factor. ... But lets see...


PS: Also look in here...
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70916
... where Didée also made a function ... EDIT: Uops, that one got a diff. purpose ;-)

bigggt 03-02-2004 09:51 PM

Let the testing begin :team:

I am too stupid to do it on my own :roll: ,i am just a follower and :bowdown: to you smart people

jorel 03-02-2004 10:45 PM

@ audioslave:
great pictures, very impressive, extreme quality!
:o

:!:

kwag 03-02-2004 10:57 PM

@audioslave,

Could you post the script you used :?:

-kwag

audioslave 03-03-2004 08:18 AM

Of course! Here we go:
Code:

Mpeg2Source("D:\DVD Rip\Pitch Black\Pitch Black.d2v")
#LanczosResize(448, 256, 6, 58, 712, 362)
Crop(6, 58, 712, 362)
HybridFuPP(448, 256, Preset="High", Chroma=False)
AddBorders(16, 112, 16, 112)

I pasted the LanczosResize line from MovieStacker and simply copied the values to the Crop() and HybridFuPP() lines. :wink:

P.S. Don't forget to check out the Doom9 forum from time to time. FuPP is constantly changing and improving this routine.

incredible 03-03-2004 09:15 AM

@Audioslave
The way of separating the resizer from fitCD in one crop() and Hybridfupp() cropping/resizing is exactly the way I also did :D

audioslave 03-03-2004 10:09 AM

@Incredible
Have you tried the IPP routine you posted the link to :?: I can't get it to work properly. I'm getting all kinds of wierd error messages... :roll:

incredible 03-03-2004 10:16 AM

Nope, as I am still fully drunk of mencoder exersizes I hadn't the time till now :lol:

kwag 03-03-2004 10:37 AM

@audioslave,

Quick test. Change the MA script line to read like this:

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 50)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 50)) ).TemporalSoften(fmin( round(5/nf), 6), round(5/nf), round(5/nf) , 1, 1) ")

Make a quick 10 second encode or so, of the same part you posted the screenshots with MA and FuPP. Tell me your result :!:
Make sure you have the line: MergeChroma(blur(1.5)) on the MA script.

-kwag

incredible 03-03-2004 11:07 AM

Kwag to me it seems you did just decreased the unfilter "max barrier" to 50 ?

But that on the other hand would avoid right blurring on very fast moving/Luma changing scenes? I think at low movement you still get the whole image proportionally to the motion blurred?

This week I builded a version of MA including an added linear adaptive Spatial filtering engine beside unfiltering and tempsoftening.

It worked mega well except that Avisynth does end up with a memory based error or so at the middle of the sample frameserving.

audioslave 03-03-2004 12:24 PM

@kwag
I tried your suggestion. But the results are still the same:
HybridFuPP still gives better output quality. And with the changes you suggested HybridFuPP is also faster than the modified MA script with about 4 minutes on my 02:14 clip :!:

kwag 03-03-2004 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audioslave
@kwag
I tried your suggestion. But the results are still the same:
HybridFuPP still gives better output quality. And with the changes you suggested HybridFuPP is also faster than the modified MA script with about 4 minutes on my 02:14 clip :!:

Ok thanks.
I guess the increase of the temporal values, screw up the encoding time.
MA script, DEAAAAAADDDDD :mrgreen:
The only thing I don't like about the FuPP, is that it's FUBAR :lol:

-kwag

Critter 03-03-2004 03:53 PM

@kwag

Are we getting new optimal script near future ?

Does this script work for avi -> kvcd conversions too or is it only for dvd ?

incredible 03-03-2004 04:13 PM

I think we should still stay very very cool! :wink:
We should do some more comparisons before saying that something which till now is proofed could be dead that fast. :)

@ Noobs

Means: MA was already updated some tima ago. In here we do test a script/function which does perform in a total different way. So be patient, maybe that all could result in less excitement in a couple of hours :lol:

Dialhot 03-03-2004 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
So be patient, maybe that all could result in less excitement in a couple of hours :lol:

Have I heard "ffvfw" ? ;-)

audioslave 03-03-2004 05:53 PM

@Dialhot
Huh... :?: :?: :?: 8O

kwag 03-03-2004 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
I think we should still stay very very cool! :wink:
We should do some more comparisons before saying that something which till now is proofed could be dead that fast. :)

Yes you're right, and the current MA script has really served us well. Not to mention that it's far much simpler that the FuPP script ;)
But we'll see, maybe we come up with a FUMANCHU script :rotf:

-kwag

incredible 03-04-2004 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
So be patient, maybe that all could result in less excitement in a couple of hours :lol:

Have I heard "ffvfw" ? ;-)

Yep you heared out that "many peoples dropped FFvfw"-factor ;-)

I still got no Probs with ffvfw, neither with mencoder where mencoder is in my encodings MUCH more faster with the same results.

@Kwag

what is "FUMANCHU" or "FUBAR" ? Did I miss something?

:)


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