Thanx a lot Fupp! Can't wait to test! :)
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Simulcasting Inc :?: :lol:
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Regards, FuPP |
Anyone out there running MUTE, you'll find a very small sample called HybridFuPP_084_ffvfw_KDVD_sample.m2v
Or just search for KVCD, and you'll see it plus some of the old samples ;) Can't wait :?:, get it here: http://www.kvcd.net/HybridFuPP_084_f...DVD_sample.m2v (It's only 637KB) -kwag |
Great work FuPP - again! :D Will start testing right away.
P.S. Nice clip kwag! :wink: |
Ok guys, here we go :D
I made three sample encodes, one with FuPP, another with Deen and one with modified MA script. All samples encoded MPEG-2 (KDVD) at 704x480 using KVCD Notch Matrix, and TMPGEnc at a CQ of 70. This are the scripts used: FuPP script: Code:
Mpeg2Source("K:\RED_PLANET\VIDEO_TS\red.d2v") Code:
Mpeg2Source("K:\RED_PLANET\VIDEO_TS\red.d2v") Code:
Mpeg2Source("K:\RED_PLANET\VIDEO_TS\red.d2v") Code:
FuPP - File Size: 2,444KB - Encode Time: 1m:16s But file sizes are correct and consistent, no matter what CPU overhead there is. Here are the samples: http://www.kvcd.net/red-fupp.m2v http://www.kvcd.net/red-deen.m2v http://www.kvcd.net/red-ma.m2v -kwag |
cool!
i'm downloading to see the quality of each script! seems off topic but : i like too much of the deen filter with this parameters: deen("a3d",3,4,1,4) # light cleaning why don't use in MA and/or FuPP :?: |
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If this difference is notable on a TV, I'm not so sure. But for file size, specially on a long and very active (action) movie, I'm sure the MA will have the smallest file size. On a drama type movie, the results of file size will probably be about the same with FuPP or MA, but quality of FuPP will be better. Quote:
Really, the MA, is this single line of code: Code:
ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ") -kwag |
i see different:
MA and Deen are equal but better matizes, look the little lights(red,yellow and green) in the begining of the samples, the color of the skin (face), the "brown" of the planet and the red light of the "aircraft" (nave,ufo,don't know the name)! Fupp change the matizes to green and all colors are faded! (less intensity,washed) use the same scenes that i used for MA and Deen like posted! for me, MA and Deen have better matizes than Fupp :!: |
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I hadn't seen that. Here are screenshots of exactly what you mean: FuPP: http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2004/03/5.png Deen: http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2004/03/6.png MA: http://www.digitalfaq.com/archives/i.../2004/03/7.png Quote:
I need to go to your eye doctor :lol: -kwag |
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now you know what means: "nose on the screen" :0) in my signature. :wink: :cyclops: :bigooh: :eyes10: :ideasmiley: :nose: |
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Hi everyone,
And what about replacing the MA part with this lines? Quote:
The speed is a lot better, and I have to compare the quality... Cu Fabrice |
Kwag : could you provide me the sample ? I'm quiet surprised about colors as I have used colorYUV(analyze=true) to check that and it was ok !
PS : I was wondering if this sample is not a little bit too dark to have an opinion about quality ? Oh, and you could do a test putting parameters : preset = "high", N2 ="deen()", Nresizer = 4 or N2 = temporalsoften(something for still scenes) or (preset = high, ST_Str = 3) too. and tell us about compressibility and quality of HybridFuPP for the same scenes in these cases ? The point is that I use a very very light temporal softening, fluxsmooth()1,-1), while you use probably harder values (deen() is quiet strong for instance). FuPP |
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" I was wondering if this sample is not a little bit too dark to have an opinion about quality ?" i could be wrong FuPP, but don't think so, correct me if i'm wrong: the color can't change the matizes if was used the same scene that have the same luma no matter if the source is dark or bright, right? links to download the samples: http://www.kvcd.net/red-fupp.m2v http://www.kvcd.net/red-deen.m2v http://www.kvcd.net/red-ma.m2v :!: |
Hi Jorel,
oh, I was not talking about the chroma problem ! I was talking about the overall quality. About chroma pb, I need the original sample to take measurements ! FuPP |
Hi FuPP,
If you mean from the original VOB, here's a 2 second cut: http://www.kvcd.net/rp2sec.vob Also take note on the red area I pointed on the screenshot, there's an artifact that looks like an incorrect colored mapped macroblock, on the lower left part, which is not visible on the samples that were created with Deen or MA. -kwag |
ok, got it.
It is caused by a bug in the internal command blur(), used to smooth chroma ! I'm now trying to find a workaround... FuPP |
I'm definitevely stupid ! This not a bug : this is normal, and it happens only on very dark scenes. In that kind of scenes, bluring chroma planes can cause that kind of things (not easy to explain in english for me). I'm looking if I can do something...
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