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A question came to me during the time I was reading this great tutorial...

HuffYuv Codec = UYVY ? YUY2 ? YVU9 ?

Since my capture card is WDM I will use Virtual VCR.

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A question came to me during the time I was reading this great tutorial...

HuffYuv Codec = UYVY ? YUY2 ? YVU9 ?

Since my capture card is WDM I will use Virtual VCR.

Thank you!
I strongly recommend the latest VirtualDub. VirtualVCR is outdated and not supported anymore.
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Oh yes? In the doom9 guide they say that the Virtual VCR is for WDM based card and virtualdubmod is for the another kind of card that I forgot the name (wfd or somehting like that...)

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The guide is slightly out-of-date. By the time of writing, VirtualDub was for VfW captures only. The 1.6 branch supports WDM as well, and it works very well at least for me (and many other as well).
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Oh ok! Good! VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod are the same?
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Oh ok! Good! VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod are the same?
Not there are not.
VDM supports audio that VD not.
Also there is a VDM mpeg2 special version.
But I don't know about the last releases.
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10-13-2005, 12:28 PM
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Thank you Prodater!

It is possible to compress video & sound simultanous during encoding in KDVD?
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Thank you Prodater!

It is possible to compress video & sound simultanous during encoding in KDVD?
If you do mean with the same encoder, it will be first audio or video but at end you will have both ready. For example with tmpgenc, mainconcept encoder, QuEnc and tools as DVDRebuilder, DIKO, etc.
I don't know enough CCE but i saw some function related to audio also.
If you do mean with different tools at same time, it is possible but the task running in background will encode slower than that in the active window.
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Oh ok! Good! VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod are the same?
Not there are not.
VDM supports audio that VD not.
Also there is a VDM mpeg2 special version.
But I don't know about the last releases.
VDM is not updated since 1.5.10 (VD is now 1.6.9, that's a lot of versions !)

Unfortunally the project is dead (at least for the moment).
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Ok if I understand well I need to encode the video and after encode the sound and after I need to join the to file with DVD rebuilder or DIKO? Oh man...I'm not near to burn a KDVD! heheahehaheahe

Any guide like Capture Doom9 guide for KDVD? Me like guide/tutorial!

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Ok if I understand well I need to encode the video and after encode the sound and after I need to join the to file with DVD rebuilder or DIKO? Oh man...I'm not near to burn a KDVD! heheahehaheahe

Any guide like Capture Doom9 guide for KDVD? Me like guide/tutorial!

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No. Once you have your audio and video streams (not muxed) you should load them in this way in DVDLab. There are another authoring tools that ask for your muxed mpg but i don't recommend you that. If possible do use DVDLabPro, even the trial version.

For captures forget DVD Rebuilder as it only works with authored DVDs.
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Don't use CCE to encode audio. Use BeSweet (+BeSweet GUI) to create an mp2 file that you can then use on the DVD. Remember to capture the audio at 48000Hz and as non-compressed WAV.

Phil, VDub's already at 1.6.11

VDubMod was updated just a while ago but they didn't merge the code to the 1.6-branch, and I think they are not planning on doing that.
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Any analog TV broadcast should be captured at the highest possible resolution. The exact resolution you should use depends on your capture card (the chip actually). PAL broadcasts are something over 700x576 and NTSC 640x480 I think.

Many capture cards sample at very high resolution and then scale down to the desired resolution, which is not good at all.
But i remember and can't find out now, an advise from Incredible about my quoted test, talking about to not capture at full resolution with i don't remember what conditions.
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SO MANY THANK!!

What affordable capture card DON'T sample at very high resolution and then scale down to the desired resolution? How to know if my card do this?

This is my capture card...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/PCI-PC-TV-Tuner-V...QQcmdZViewItem
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Any analog TV broadcast should be captured at the highest possible resolution. The exact resolution you should use depends on your capture card (the chip actually). PAL broadcasts are something over 700x576 and NTSC 640x480 I think.

Many capture cards sample at very high resolution and then scale down to the desired resolution, which is not good at all.
But i remember and can't find out now, an advise from Incredible about my quoted test, talking about to not capture at full resolution with i don't remember what conditions.
That's why I say in the quote that the resolution that should be used depends on the capture chip

EDIT: (Prophecy64: if you don't know the card brand and model, you need to try to see if the chip is visible on the card and determine which it is. What does Device Manager say?)

I don't know what the sampling rate is with the chip your card has. I'm sure Incredible will be able to help you if he happens to bump into this thread.
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TV Card 7130 its what I see in the Device Manager...nothing really helpfull. I will look on the chip directly. What I want to see on it?
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The chip probably is a Philips SAA7130 but I don't know what the sampling rate is. You could try capturing at 720x480 (you're an NTSC user?) and 704x480 and post one screenshot from both of them. In VDub you can take a screenshot by loading the file, seeking to the frame you wish to grab and pressing CTRL+1. Then paste the clipboard contents in some image processing program (IrfanView is a free one if you don't have any) and save as jpg for example. ImageShack will host the pics if you don't have any space of your own.
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Yes it is this chipset.

For now I can't capture in 720 X 480 because of my weak computer. I will do this as soon that I have my new computer. If the 704 X 480 resolution if worst then than the 720 X 480 its because my card sample at very high resolution and then scale down to the desired resolution?

Yes I'm NTSC. About that...I can choose NTSC_M and two others in Vdub when I'm in the capture option. Which one is the best?

I have an FTP to post my video!

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For now I can't capture in 720 X 480 because of my weak computer. I will do this as soon that I have my new computer. If the 704 X 480 resolution if worst then than the 720 X 480 its because my card sample at very high resolution and then scale down to the desired resolution?
It doesn't matter if the capture has dropped frames as I need only one frame as a screenshot to do some analysis. Without the two screenshots it's impossible to know whether the card has a scaler or doesn't, unless someone knows the sampling rate.

EDIT: Incredible already answered you in the "KDVD Quality" thread. If you have ~9 pixel borders on the left and right side with 720x480, use that for capturing. Otherwise use 704x480.
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