Pentium or Amd - and New Mobo...

[el_mero_zooter]

Im in the market for a new motherboard and cpu....
whacha'll think,,,
should i go amd or P4 for mostly video kvcd'ing....?
i'd like a p4 3.06 ghz but its still too pricey,,,'bout $ 500-600 cdn,,,,

t.i.a

Zooter

[Bchteam]

Right now, I would buy the Abit NF-7 Revison or the Epox 8RDA+ Mainboards.

As the processor i would take an Athlon 1700+ T-Bred with JIUHB stepping (very important)

You better buy a good cooler with high performance.

The good things about the Athlon 1700+ T-Bred with JIUHB stepping are the price (very cheap) and capabilty of very easy overclocking.But be sure to take one of the Mainboard I suggested.

You can overclock a Athlon 1700+ up to 2600+ or even 2800+, without any special cooling, anyway would not take the cheapest cooler.

But it MUST have T-BRED core and it MUST have the JIUHB stepping.

The overclocking is very,very easy. Just have to increase the CPU Voltage,the FSB(Front side bus) and the multiplicator. You can make all those settings in the BIOS.

In Germany an Athlon 1700+ T-Bred with JIUHB costs only 60 € (66 US $) and the Abit NF-7 Rev.2 only 110€ (120 US $).

That combinations kicks Intel Pentiums ass.

[el_mero_zooter]

Dammmmmmmmmmmmm,
i just came back from the store after buying some parts,,wish i had read your post before.
i picked up an athlon 1800 and an Asus A7V8X-V,,,
shite,,,,,is this board overclockable, would u know?

i like the oc' idea....my next pc i mod will be watercooled fer sure....


ztr

[ovg64]

Check out this rigs http://www.ibuypower.com/mall/lobby.htm You going to be jelous

[Boulder]

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Originally Posted by Bchteam

The overclocking is very,very easy. Just have to increase the CPU Voltage,the FSB(Front side bus) and the multiplicator. You can make all those settings in the BIOS.

You can change the multiplicator only if the processor is unlocked, and that's a bit harder with Athlon XPs than with early Durons and Thunderbirds. Or is the Thoroughbred XP unlocked by default these days?

You also need good RAM to be able to raise the FSB enough to make a difference.

[Bchteam]

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You can change the multiplicator only if the processor is unlocked, and that's a bit harder with Athlon XPs than with early Durons and Thunderbirds. Or is the Thoroughbred XP unlocked by default these days?

No, you don't need to unlock the T-Bred
And it's better to keep the Multiplicator low and increase the FSB, anyway.

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You also need good RAM to be able to raise the FSB enough to make a difference.

Yes, but even good RAM is not really expensive. In Germany you'll get 512MB CL 2.5 PC333 Infineon or Apacer for 60 €.

[Boulder]

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Originally Posted by Bchteam

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No, you don't need to unlock the T-Bred
And it's better to keep the Multiplicator low and increase the FSB, anyway.

Well, they finally learnt that it's no use locking the multiplier, people will always find a way to get around it. With P4's the lock is not a problem since they'll accept a very high FSB rating which is of course better

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You also need good RAM to be able to raise the FSB enough to make a difference.

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Yes, but even good RAM is not really expensive. In Germany you'll get 512MB CL 2.5 PC333 Infineon or Apacer for 60 €.

True, it's a buyer's market at the moment. I just bought a 512MB chip of Kingston's HyperX memory CL2 at 370MHz guaranteed, the price was about 100€.

[Bchteam]

@Zooter

The Boards with the Nforce 2 Chipset are way better und more stable than the Boards with the VIA Chipset. The Board, which you have buyed (Asus A7V8X) has the VIA Chipset KT400.

With that Board, Overclocking doesn't make much Sense, because of the instability.

As you know I'd recommend following Boards:

Epox 8RDA+

ASUS A7N8X Deluxe

Abit NF-7 Rev.2

[el_mero_zooter]

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Originally Posted by Bchteam

@Zooter

With that Board, Overclocking doesn't make much Sense, because of the instability.

i hear ya bc,
im gonna try to pawn this mobo off to one of my customers
and get the A7N8X,,,,though ive heard good things about the epox one too.....
i still kinda prefer intel, or at least have always bought into their marketing...specially since hooking up a colleague's 2.6 p4,,,82 fps on vdub w/ divx .....
but some of the benchmarks im on some athlons--and dang man,,,
they come close if not beat some p4's..

thanx again

zooter