Is there some sorta T.O.K. or calcumatic for cce? no right?
manual perdiction just doesnt work on movies like " the run down "
the smallest i could make that was like 2 gb (without losing quality)
PLEASE tell me theres a miricle 1 step kDVD makin gui thatr lets u set a final destination file size
720 x 480 mpeg2 with tmpg takes about 12-14 or 16 hours on my comp
(so screww that idea)

dvd2svcd(dvd2dvd)with D2SRoba!

DoCCE perhaps ?
I never used it but it is normally to compute correct Q factor automatically.
(sorta "automatic manual prediction" )

Note: I never had manual prediction taht fails on any movie

yes Phil, i still don't test DoCCE and maybe is cool to but with d2sroba i got perfect file size for 2 or 3 movies in 1 dvd media!

As I need to do movies with 2 audio tracks and 1 subtitle, I don't thing Roba can be of a great help here. D2sRoba does only the m2v, right ? It doesn't deal with audio tracks and selectable subtitles as D2S does for KVCD/KSVCD ?

Because if it is "just" for making the m2v, the manual prediction method with Q mode is far faster (encoding in 1 pass and not 2) and better quality. And that is why I didn't tried Roba yet.

thanks sooo much guys, I have tryed dvd2svcd but is roba or whatever diff? & i think i will give docce a shot

Roba is an automatic method to find the correct Q to encode. But I did a mistake : roba does not work in 2pass.
In fact Roba is to avoid to use the 2pass encoding that is the default in D2S when using CCE. Quality is greatly better.

Jorel, am I right or wrong ?

I did a search on google but no english results & i think DoCCE anale is not it lol
where is the homepage?

YES Phil, you can do(i did yesterday for 2 movies)
adjust Roba for 1/2 dvd size.
open d2s select 2 audio tracks(imy choice is "do not convert audio(use source audio)
choose 2 languages for subs(great feature-in subtitle palette, you can choose the color and font for subs..my choice is yellow or money...better than the white default color)
in cd image tab select "dvdauthor"
select multipass vbr(no matter the number of passes choosed,will be always 2)don't use one pass vbr!

choose "edit as part of video encode",when this window open,remove all resizes and use only undot() and deen()...click save,ok.
or copy this script to avisynth.ini (your choice)
[AVISYNTH_ NO Resize - Undot - Deen]
0=undot()
1=Deen()# low Q in CCE266 with kvcd notch matrix
or this for extreme compression(very slow but great quality and compression):
[AVISYNTH_ NO Resize - Undot - Deen]
0=undot()
1=Deen("a3d",3,4,1,4)# very low Q in CCE266 with kvcd nothch matrix- cool for 3 movies

no matter if you rip the movie to hd, choose "internal routines" for perfect audio sincro.
encoder CCE266-choose kvcd notch matrix!
run...
repeat this steps to the second movie(or 3 movies,your choice)

i got 2 movies(each with 2 ac3 audios, 2 subs) in perfect final size.
now i only need one tool to do the menu!


quality?....see your own results, will be better than my opinion!

Doom9.
Do you know ?
http://www.doom9.org/software2.htm

So Roba is 2pass ? There is no gain at all then ? What is the purpose of Roba

What do you have at the end of the process ? I guess that DVDAuthor does a VIDEO_TS directory with all ifo and vobs there ?

thanks & now i do know

i cant even get it to start keeps saying
cce executable associated with eclcce is not supported

it's probably limited to cce2.50 OR cce2.66 but not both. And unfortunally, you don't have the correct version

You can try DIKO. It does DVD sources and DivX sources, and prediction is integrated and automated.

hi vemesquito i thought the testing verson didnt support dvd?

the purpose of roba is:
first some little(fast)steps choosing the Q factor,then one full pass with the Q factor found to create the .vaf file(if i remember the right name of this pass) and another full pass to do the final encode!
i know, seems "strange" choose "multipass vbr" and no matter the number of passes,can be 2, 3 or 4, just the same!
give the perfect size that you choosed.

and yes, you got an VIDEO_TS directory with all ifos and vobs there for each movie,open as dvd source in powerdvd or windvd and choose language and subs for test! (and one more zipped file with everything inside too(for author))..of course, encode one movie first then the others.

It's not a testing version. It's a Free version. A test version (also known as demo) does not allow you get something done, just lets you test. For example, if I created a version that only did 5 minutes or something like that, or embeeded a watermark, etc. You can use the Free version forever if you want, I just created the Gold version for those who want a little more advanced features and are willing to reward me for my work.

The Free version allows DVD sources, but you have to manually create the D2V projects and convert the subtitles to SRT format using SubRip.

i live in canada man, $ 19.95 u.s.a. funds ='s like $40 canadian dollars
do it for $20 canadian & i'll think about it

Creating the vaf and then encoding in a second pass is the basis of a 2pass encoding. Then there is NO NEED to determinate a Q factor as the encoding is Average Bitrate based and not Q based
There is NO Q factor setting in CCE when you choose multipass VBR (I just checked)

I still don't see any gain and interest in the roba method then !

Do you have any documentation on this ?

For sure, it's a 2pass encoding !

Okay.

EDIT: I wonder is Roba can be an hybrid method between Q encoding and 2pass one. I mean, first pass in Q mode and second in VBR mode ? That is theorically a nonsense...