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QuEnc is an mpeg2 encoder that accepts AviSynth avs files as input and allows KVCD matrix and extra long GOP. Dragongodz has been trying some fixes on Nick's QuEnc and has test version QuEnc051-D2 available at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80088
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07-28-2004, 07:02 PM
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Though bear in mind someone recently modified the notch matrix supplied with QuEnc because it caused problems with the Trellis mode.
(At least, that's what I remember reading over on Doom9...)
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07-28-2004, 07:07 PM
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Excuse me but when the first lien of comment is this : Quote:
I mainly use CBR because CBR streams better than VBR
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I can't continue to read any word more.
(I hope he meant "for this kind of test" only...)
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07-28-2004, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dialhot
Excuse me but when the first lien of comment is this : Quote:
I mainly use CBR because CBR streams better than VBR
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I can't continue to read any word more.
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Er... I don't see that comment. Did I miss something?
EDIT: Never mind. I see it.
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07-28-2004, 10:22 PM
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LMAO
Not to mention that I LMAO (again!) when I read (at the link above) things like: QuEnc 0.52 will be released under the GPL
Er... talk about playing with licenses, after they bitched about the Moviestacker issue
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07-29-2004, 03:08 AM
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What's funny about me wanting it released under GPL? I thought that would be considered a good thing.... ?
(and forgive the guy that stated: "I mainly use CBR because CBR streams better than VBR" he only has 4 posts at D9.....)
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07-29-2004, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nic_asdf
What's funny about me wanting it released under GPL? I thought that would be considered a good thing.... ?
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For sure. That was not the meaning of Kwag's message. He was relating the "war" that was launch by Doom9 members after someone claim that MovieStacker used GPL part without publishing the sources.
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07-29-2004, 04:34 AM
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Let me be the first one to say "Don't start another (flame)war." It doesn't do good to anyone.
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07-29-2004, 04:56 AM
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I do underline Boulders statement!
So please, lets test and make our encoder based opinions as we did it in the past
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07-29-2004, 08:30 AM
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@Nic,
My post was not in any way aimed at you.
You know EXACTLY who the message was targeted to
It's funny, though, that after so long, even many other (selected) people have QuEnc sources, and they are releasing modified copies (binaries), and now it will be released as GPL when it should have been released a very long time ago
I rest my case with doom9 (owner) and company, where they talk about "principles", but they don't even follow THE principles.
Sorry if this pisses of some people, but it's the plain and straight truth
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07-29-2004, 08:42 AM
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Btw, is there something wrong with the board? I just got seven notifications for a new reply in this thread It wasn't the first time, it's happened a couple of times in the last week or so.
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07-29-2004, 09:08 AM
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Btw, is there something wrong with the board? I just got seven notifications for a new reply in this thread It wasn't the first time, it's happened a couple of times in the last week or so.
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Did you get the previous notifications
Maybe there was a routing problem, and the previous notifications were in queue
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07-29-2004, 09:14 AM
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Yes, I got the previous ones. The seven notifications that I received had the same timestamp on each one of them..maybe it was just some odd hiccup
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07-29-2004, 01:54 PM
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Hi Nic,
Im glad to see you are still working on QuEnc it is a very promising encoder and I use it quite often.
Also big thanks to Dragongodz for the D2 mod of the encoder I have downloaded this also.
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07-29-2004, 03:34 PM
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? I don't quite understand. But that's all ok as long as there is no anomosity
Just to clarify a little:
There was never any need for QuEnc to release its source as GPL (as it uses no GPL code), but I always release my stuff as GPL, but at the time of writing QuEnc there were quite a few people ripping software off so I thought better of it. Dragongodz got the source because he wanted to help develop it (and anyone that asked for it would have gotten it). But now I don't have time to develop QuEnc and Dragongodz will lose his hair trying to fix it So it may as well be released as GPL
Hope that makes sense, and thanks again for sorting out the LGPL issue for me at the time (I still think the LGPL is badly worded...it should be revised IMO )
I think Doom9's members generally follow there principles, I can't speak for the whole board, but all the developers I can think of that reside there do a great job.
Anyway, pretty much end of discussion
Take care,
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07-29-2004, 03:42 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up for us Nic, I think it is great that you as a developer have made this open source via GPL as you dont have time to develope it other's can in your absense.
I wish the authors of ToKVCD and ACP would have done the same but they disappeared off this board a long time ago and took their code with them so no one could pick up the code where they left off which imho is very sad.
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07-29-2004, 05:16 PM
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But now I don't have time to develop QuEnc and Dragongodz will lose his hair trying to fix it So it may as well be released as GPL
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Hi Nic,
Would you consider another Open Source license, instead of GPL
For example, look at these (very strong) statements, from some of the most popular free software on the net (links just below the quotes) :
Python Copyright:
"The gist of it is that Python is absolutely free, even for commercial use (including resale). There is no GNU-like "copyleft" restriction."
http://www.python.org/doc/Copyright.html
Lua License:
"Lua is free software: it can be used for both academic and commercial purposes at absolutely no cost. There are no royalties or GNU-like "copyleft" restrictions."
http://www.lua.org/license.html
wxWidgets Licence (wxWindows):
"The wxWidgets 2 licence is essentially the L-GPL (Library General Public Licence), with an exception stating that derived works in binary form may be distributed on the user's own terms. This is a solution that satisfies those who wish to produce GPL'ed software using wxWidgets, and also those producing proprietary software."
http://www.wxwindows.org/newlicen.htm
NetBSD Licensing and Redistribution (same as FreeBSD and OpenBSD) :
"In summary, the people involved in the NetBSD Project use a Berkeley-style license where possible because it closely matches our goal of allowing users to do whatever they'd like with our software, while making sure that we get credit for the work we have done."
http://www.netbsd.org/Goals/redistribution.html
PostgreSQL (The BEST database server is NOT MySQL ) :
"People often ask why PostgreSQL is not released under the GNU General Public Licence. The simple answer is because we like the BSD licence and do not want to change it. If you are keen to read more about this topic, then please take a look in the Archives at any of the many threads on this subject, but please don't start yet another debate on the subject!"
http://www.postgresql.org/licence.html
I could go on, but I think I make the point pretty clear. There is only ONE GPL license, and there are MANY other Open Source licenses, but the writing on the wall is obvious.
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07-30-2004, 04:02 AM
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Im in agreement with you there Karl there are so many other options to open source a project without those horrible restrictions of the GPL license.
Thanks for all the info on the other licenses'.
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07-30-2004, 10:10 AM
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@Nic,
Hi Nic, I have a problem, which I have not been able to solve, and maybe you can enlighten me (us?).
I have tried several times to compile the avcodec.dll file, and no matter what/how I try, the file is never the same size as your dll
Could you please post your command line options, compiler version, etc., so I can duplicate your compiled dll
Also, what version of libavcodec are you using.
Maybe I'm using the wrong CVS sources.
I'm trying to work out some optimizations, but my compiled dll doesn't work with QuEnc. That is the reason why I ask.
You see, your dll is around 845KB, and my compiled dll is about 886KB, which is quite a difference, so obviously I'm doing something wrong.
Thanks,
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08-01-2004, 05:25 PM
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How strange? I'm using quite an old version of gcc & Cygwin (??) Don't know if that's the reason...Shouldn't be hard to remedy, I'll post the line I use to compile it with when I get my computer back up and running (powersupply blew in the heat).
See ya,
-Nic
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