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01-13-2005, 04:06 AM
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Hi everyone,
I have too many problems to convert DVD to KVCD .
It seems that the reason is a wrong calculation of CQ made either by DVD2SVCD or CQMatic.
I used CQMatic (1.4.04)/Calcumatic (1.1.14) to find the correct CQ and I fed DVD2SVCD with the result.
Even in this case I didn't succeed in fitting the movie on 1 CD!
Perhaps I failed to pick up the correct TMPGEnc project file to feed CQmatic?
Anyway, I enclose DVD2SVCD log hoping you could understand the problem. Thanks

Bye bye

WNASPI32.DLL 4.71.2.0
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- 12/01/2005 15:54:40
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2VCD ver. 1.2.2 build 1
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Initializing
- C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
- C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 12/01/2005 15:54:43
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\T HE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,
C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\T HE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob,
C:\THE_BOURNE_SUPREMACY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 12/01/2005 15:57:12
- Free on drive C: 7474.82 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 " -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp 2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.lo g" ) -azid( -L -3db -C 0db -S 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m d )
Audio conversion of C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 12/01/2005 16:09:48
- Free on drive C: 7111.95 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Converting: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\DefaultLastCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 12/01/2005 16:09:59
- Free on drive C: 7110.82 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.av s
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\LastCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_C Q_TEST.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_C Q_TEST.avs
Wanted: 719921484 (703048kb)
Predicted: 685536441 (669469kb) Using CQ Value: 60.00
Calculated next CQ Value: 61.39
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_C Q_TEST.avs
Wanted: 719921484 (703048kb)
Predicted: 694307988 (678035kb) Using CQ Value: 61.39
Calculated next CQ Value: 62.43
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_C Q_TEST.avs
Wanted: 719921484 (703048kb)
Predicted: 705354434 (688823kb) Using CQ Value: 62.43
Calculated next CQ Value: 63.03
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_C Q_TEST.avs
Wanted: 719921484 (703048kb)
Predicted: 726731947 (709699kb) Using CQ Value: 63.03
Calculated next CQ Value: 62.68
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding Test Clip C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file_C Q_TEST.avs
Wanted: 719921484 (703048kb)
Predicted: 714522566 (697776kb) Using CQ Value: 62.68
Calculated final CQ Value: 62.68
- Encoding C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.a vs
StreamSectors: 832542788
AudioSectors: 101293864
VideoPAPO: 11327436
ScanOffsetBytes: 0
SeqAligningBytes: 0
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 719921484.00
Seconds: 6246.28
CalcMPEGStream: 719921484.00
Frames: 155982
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00
Using CQ Value: 62.68
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg 2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
MPEG2Source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D 2V")
nf=0
GripCrop(480, 576, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=true, dest_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BiCubicResize")
Undot()
Asharp(1, 4)
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5)
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf), round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")
GripBorders()
function fmin(int f1, int f2) { return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2 }
function ConvertToYUY2(clip c){ return isYV12(c) ? c : convertToYV12(c) }
----AVS End----

Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Cionti\Desktop\pc\io\KVCD\software DVD to KVCD\TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file. tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 12/01/2005 20:02:00
- Free on drive C: 6503.97 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TitlePicture.bmp. mpg"
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- 12/01/2005 20:02:07
- Free on drive C: 6503.92 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.m pg"
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- 12/01/2005 20:02:11
- Free on drive C: 6503.89 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\LastCDPicture.bmp.mpg "
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- 12/01/2005 20:02:15
- Free on drive C: 6503.86 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg "
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 12/01/2005 20:06:16
- Free on drive C: 5467.20 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mp g
4724.428 seconds C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mp g
Analyzing: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mp g
1433.710 seconds C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mp g
Analyzing finished.

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- 12/01/2005 20:06:53
- Free on drive C: 5467.20 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 18

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe " --verbose --cue-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1 .cue" --bin-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD1 .bin" "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 12/01/2005 20:09:48
- Free on drive C: 4659.95 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 8

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe " --verbose --cue-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2 .cue" --bin-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\CD_Image_File_CD2 .bin" "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\VCDXBU~2.XML"
Image creation finished.

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- 12/01/2005 20:10:33
- Free on drive C: 4413.18 mb
- Conversion done!
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01-13-2005, 04:33 AM
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CQ Calc in DVD2SVCD ahas always been false and will always be. I drop this tool months ago only for that.
Why do you post you DVD2SVCD log only in the CQMatic section ? Forget DVD2SVCD and post the log concerning CQMatic !
And tell us how much percent your encoded video is over the target.
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I got an encoded audio (mp2) of about 97.000 KB and an encoded video (mpv) of about 664.000 KB.
The result are two muxed files (mpg) of 814.000 KB and 247.000 KB!!!

I enclose CQMatic log as you requested (after feeding it with the script generated by DVD2SVCD).

For your information, I'm trying to backup "The Bourne Supremacy".

Thanks a lot, Phil

CQMatic Version 1.4.04
http://www.kvcd.net
Copyright KVCD.Net, 2004.
All rights reserved.
Time: 12:37:26 Date: 01/13/2005
Ready!
Project: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file TEXT.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.m 1v
Project resolution: 480x576
Project: C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\TMPGEnc_Project_file TEXT.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

C:\Programmi\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.m 1v
Project resolution: 480x576
Execute.
Movie Time: 103:50
Average Bitrate: 910.8
Prediction Only mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Process started at 12:38:16
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Preparing for calibration phase...
Calibration phase started.
Step 1 of 10.
Step 2 of 10.
Step 3 of 10.
Step 4 of 10.
Step 5 of 10.
Step 6 of 10.
Step 7 of 10.
Step 8 of 10.
Step 9 of 10.
Step 10 of 10.
Calibration phase complete.
CQ set for prediction
Setting up sampling.
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.30 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.107083
Low fence: 60.000000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 60.00
Current CQ = 66.42
CQ difference = 6.424980
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.27 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.961465
Low fence: 60.000000
High fence: 66.424980
Last CQ = 66.42
Current CQ = 63.21
CQ difference = 3.212490
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 3
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.27 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.040491
Low fence: 63.212490
High fence: 66.424980
Last CQ = 63.21
Current CQ = 64.82
CQ difference = 1.606243
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 4
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.27 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.991093
Low fence: 63.212490
High fence: 64.818733
Last CQ = 64.82
Current CQ = 64.02
CQ difference = 0.803123
Setting up sampling.
Phase 2 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.32 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.032543
Low fence: 64.015610
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 64.02
Current CQ = 66.10
CQ difference = 2.083282
Phase 2 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.22 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.987407
Low fence: 64.015610
High fence: 66.098892
Last CQ = 66.10
Current CQ = 65.06
CQ difference = 1.041641
Phase 2 of 7, cycle 3
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.22 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.011201
Setting up sampling.
Phase 3 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.22 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.122185
Low fence: 65.057251
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 65.06
Current CQ = 73.01
CQ difference = 7.948997
Phase 3 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.20 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.916070
Low fence: 65.057251
High fence: 73.006248
Last CQ = 73.01
Current CQ = 69.03
CQ difference = 3.974495
Phase 3 of 7, cycle 3
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.076778
Low fence: 69.031754
High fence: 73.006248
Last CQ = 69.03
Current CQ = 71.02
CQ difference = 1.987244
Phase 3 of 7, cycle 4
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.22 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.011325
Setting up sampling.
Phase 4 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.27 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.861737
Low fence: 2.000000
High fence: 71.018997
Last CQ = 71.02
Current CQ = 61.20
CQ difference = 9.819313
Phase 4 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.079854
Low fence: 61.199684
High fence: 71.018997
Last CQ = 61.20
Current CQ = 66.11
CQ difference = 4.909660
Phase 4 of 7, cycle 3
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.20 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.943771
Low fence: 61.199684
High fence: 66.109344
Last CQ = 66.11
Current CQ = 63.65
CQ difference = 2.454830
Phase 4 of 7, cycle 4
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.999642
Low fence: 61.199684
High fence: 63.654514
Last CQ = 63.65
Current CQ = 63.63
CQ difference = 0.022793
Setting up sampling.
Phase 5 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.22 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.953137
Low fence: 2.000000
High fence: 63.631721
Last CQ = 63.63
Current CQ = 60.65
CQ difference = 2.981995
Phase 5 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.040269
Low fence: 60.649727
High fence: 63.631721
Last CQ = 60.65
Current CQ = 62.14
CQ difference = 1.490997
Phase 5 of 7, cycle 3
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.20 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.013925
Setting up sampling.
Phase 6 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.971017
Low fence: 2.000000
High fence: 62.140724
Last CQ = 62.14
Current CQ = 60.34
CQ difference = 1.801014
Phase 6 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.998786
Low fence: 2.000000
High fence: 60.339710
Last CQ = 60.34
Current CQ = 60.27
CQ difference = 0.073269
Setting up sampling.
Phase 7 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.20 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.039054
Low fence: 60.266441
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 60.27
Current CQ = 62.62
CQ difference = 2.353634
Phase 7 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 0.998083
Low fence: 60.266441
High fence: 62.620075
Last CQ = 62.62
Current CQ = 61.44
CQ difference = 1.176815
Phase 7 of 7, cycle 3
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.20 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1.023762
Low fence: 61.443260
High fence: 62.620075
Last CQ = 61.44
Current CQ = 62.03
CQ difference = 0.588409
Final CQ value is 64.07
Encoding test sample at 64.07
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 33.68
Process ended at 13:11:57
On 01/13/2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paolo
I got an encoded audio (mp2) of about 97.000 KB and an encoded video (mpv) of about 664.000 KB.
The result are two muxed files (mpg) of 814.000 KB and 247.000 KB!!!
You problem is not in the encoding then, but in the muxing.

97 + 664 = 761 KB and even with the overhead due to the muxing, you can't reach 1 GB !

How did you mux ?

Note: sei italiano Paolo ?
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Sì sono italiano.

Muxing was automatically made by DVD2SVCD (through bbmpeg, I guess).

In the advanced setting of bbmpeg output I saw that Program Stream Type is VCD and VBR is checked?!

I remember that my first successful KVCD experiences were mpeg1 streams muxed as SVCD (Could it be possible?).

Thanks Phil
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paolo
Sì sono italiano.
e possibile fare messagi in italiano si preferisci (pero sono piu bravo in inglese )

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Muxing was automatically made by DVD2SVCD (through bbmpeg, I guess).
For sure. Stupid question

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In the advanced setting of bbmpeg output I saw that Program Stream Type is VCD and VBR is checked?!
Normally these are the correct settings. But perhaps DVD2SVCd send them badly to bbmpeg because 814 + 247 = 1061 KB ~= 100 minutes of video muxed in standard VCD. And what is the length of your movie ? 104 minutes ! That means that the muxing has been done in VCD with VBR unchecked

Try to mux the mpv and the mp2 manually (either by bbmpeg or with tmpgenc) and everything should be okay.

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I remember that my first successful KVCD experiences were mpeg1 streams muxed as SVCD (Could it be possible?).
Yes it is. That's what I'm doing anytime because my player handles that better than VCD.
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01-13-2005, 09:54 AM
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Thanks Phil,
I muxed manually with TMPGEnc and I got a single CD!

However, I would like to understand why the DVD2SVCD 1.2.2 has this problem while 1.2.1 worked well!

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However, I would like to understand why the DVD2SVCD 1.2.2 has this problem while 1.2.1 worked well!
Two ideas :
- you installed 1.2.2 onto 1.2.1 and the old ini file for 1.2.1 is not fully compliant with 1.2.2.
- that is not the same version of bbmpeg that is delivered between the two release.
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01-13-2005, 10:33 AM
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I'm sure to erase previous version of software so I'll check the version of bbmpeg and I'll let you know.

Anyway, as bbmpeg is embedded in DVD2SVCD, the guys who released 1.2.2 version should have been aware of that. Am I wrong?
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01-13-2005, 10:38 AM
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I just happened to realize that the KVCD matrix embedded in DVD2KVCD is wrong!
Did anyone know that?
I knew from a post of yours ( ) that DVD2SVCD had the wrong matrix but I thought that DVD2KVCD was correct...
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01-13-2005, 10:52 AM
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I knew from a post of yours ( ) that DVD2SVCD had the wrong matrix but I thought that DVD2KVCD was correct...
DVD2KVCD is the plugin for DVD2SVCD done by azel (? if I remember well).
No, noone never reported that.

For your question about bbmpeg, noone is supposed to do VBR VCD, so I guess the author simply not tested that.
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01-18-2005, 05:34 AM
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Hi Phil,
this is not the correct section to discuss but I have few other problems for the same movie encoding so just tell me if we have to move the thread elsewhere.
I succeeded in doing my KVCD from The Bourne Supremacy. The final CQ was around 64, quite satisfactory for me, but in some action and noisy scenes (i.e. car chasing) I got bad audio with a time offset and video jumping many frames.
Is this due to max bitrate? Could it be useful to lower the max from 2500 to 2000? Or what else can the reason be?

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Paolo
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01-18-2005, 06:26 AM
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Yes you should reduce the max but not so much else the picture will be pixelated. Try with 2300 (btw I do all my encodings with 2300 as max).

But all depends on the player. You should read this page :
http://web.tiscali.it/benis/dvd/formati/formati.htm
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01-20-2005, 03:57 AM
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I lowered max bitrate to 2300 (audio always at 12 but the result is the same: video is jumping frames and audio is out of sync.
What else can I do?

Paolo
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What is your player brand and model ?
Are you doing MPEG1 or MPEG2 ?
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01-20-2005, 04:13 AM
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LG 5183
MPEG1 (muxed as SVCD).

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LG 5183
MPEG1 (muxed as SVCD).
I wanted to suggest you to do that . I guess what you have to test then is MPEG1 VCD and MPEG2 SVCD. Okay MPEG2 will give lower result, but it's better than you current problems.
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OK Thanks Phil,
I'll keep on doing tests.

Paolo
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01-20-2005, 04:41 AM
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First try: unsuccessfull

MPEG1 VCD has the same problems.

Tell me that I haven't only one remaining chance...
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