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drequena 02-01-2005 06:47 AM

What to change in the guides (KDVD instead of KVCD)
 
Hi all,

Time ago I managed to convert some avis I had to KVCD looking at the fine guides at kvcd.net. Result was quite good.

Now I've got a dvd recorder so I'd like to convert these same avis to KDVD instead. As far as I know video format is different but this will be handled by tmpgEnc templates and new optimal avs scripts. Right? Do I have to take anything else into account?

Now for the difficult part: sound is another format too...

What I need is to know what to look for in the guides in order to be changed.

Thanks in advance.
Dei:Bit

Dialhot 02-01-2005 06:51 AM

The main diff are :
- video must be MPEG2
- resolution must be 352*240 / 352*480 / 704*480 or 720*480 for NTSC
(both of these point are taken in account by the template, like you said)

- audio samplerate must be 48 Khz (and not 44.1). There is nothing new ! DVD accepts mp2 audio as VCD did. But you can also use the original ac3 from your sources. It's an option.

rds_correia 02-01-2005 07:30 AM

And there is full support for true selectable subtitles if needed.
For authoring, instead of VCDEasy you have a lot of options:
-DVDLab Pro *
-DVDLab
-Tmpgenc DVD Author
-DVDAuthorGUI *
-IfoEdit *
-etc...
*-Subtitle support.

drequena 02-01-2005 08:03 AM

Aothoring soft
 
Thanks for the help!

Some of these authoring softwares is free or has an usable demo?

Just want to test at this point. I didn't have thought of the need of bulding new menus!! :-(

TIA,
Dei:Bit

the viking 02-01-2005 08:10 AM

drequena wrote:
Quote:

Some of these authoring softwares is free or has an usable demo?
-DVDAuthorGUI and IfoEdit are free.I have used
DVDAuthorGUI lately and it works great.

http://www.videohelp.com/~liquid217/dvdauthorgui.pl

Good Luck! :)

Dialhot 02-01-2005 08:24 AM

And DVDLabPro has a 30-day trial period.

Anerboda 02-01-2005 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
And DVDLabPro has a 30-day trial period.

...And after 30 days it's worth the money :D (100$)

drequena 02-02-2005 06:44 AM

Still confused...
 
Quote:

- resolution must be 352*240 / 352*480 / 704*480 or 720*480 for NTSC
(both of these point are taken in account by the template, like you said)
Templates at kvcd.net are 720*576 (PAL) or 720*480 (NTSC) so I imagine I keep 720*576 for now.

What about framerate? I thought 25 fps was correct for PAL but I keep finding posts stating 29.xxx is the correct one :?:

TIA
Dei:Bit

Dialhot 02-02-2005 06:48 AM

Re: Still confused...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drequena
What about framerate? I thought 25 fps was correct for PAL but I keep finding posts stating 29.xxx is the correct one :?:

Not for PAL ! 29.970 is the fps for NTSC (but it can be 23.976 pulled down also - that is the same for the standalone point of view).

Boulder 02-02-2005 06:49 AM

Use Avisynth for resizing (and all processing) and TMPGEnc only for encoding. Go for 704x576, 25fps is the correct framerate for PAL.

drequena 02-02-2005 07:20 AM

Wich audio format is smaller?
 
Quote:

- audio samplerate must be 48 Khz (and not 44.1). There is nothing new ! DVD accepts mp2 audio as VCD did. But you can also use the original ac3 from your sources. It's an option.
So if it's an option and I had to encode from wav (two channel stereo) I suppose best choice would be based on size. Would stereo ac3 be smaller than mp2?

I've more doubts on resolution and aspect ratio but I better open a new thread.

Thanks for all yur help.
Dei:Bit

Boulder 02-02-2005 07:23 AM

The size depends entirely on the bitrate. Audio with a bitrate of 128kbps will produce equally (maybe a minimal difference) sized files, be it AC3 or MP2.

Dialhot 02-02-2005 07:25 AM

Re: Wich audio format is smaller?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drequena
Would stereo ac3 be smaller than mp2?

No, the size depends only on the bitrate. Something encoded at 128 kbit/s will take the same place whatever the format used.

But the quality of the result depends on the format. It was never prooved that, for stereo, AC3 is better than MP2. So choose whatever you want.

@Boulder : you're faster :-D

drequena 02-02-2005 07:47 AM

Keep the competition, I love to receive **fast** responses!! :D

Of course, you're right. I didnt realize both of them are CBR so size exclusively depends on bitrate.

In fact I thought ac3 was the same beast as AAC (mp4) wich can be VBR. I don't know where this idea came from but, anyway, I should have thought a little more before asking here, I'm sorry.

Dei:Bit


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