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10-16-2002, 06:38 PM
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Kwag,

I have tried several times to put 90 to 95 minutes movies on an 80 minute CD using your 352X480 Plus template, but the file produced by TMPG is always too big. You stated in an earlier post that you had success putting Time Machine onto one CD, but I'm able to duplicate your success. These are my setting, please tell me what I'm doing wrong.

FitCD script:

LoadPlugin("D:\AviSynth\DVX 2.34\plugins\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\WarOfTheShaolinTemple\WarOfShaolin .d2v")
BicubicResize(336,448,1/3,1/3,0,0,720,480)
TemporalSmoother(2,1)
AddBorders(8,16,8,16)
#Trim(0,160293).FadeOut(150)
ConvertToRGB24 # For TMPGEnc or VFAPI

I loaded the 352X480 Plus Template into TMPG and left the defaults, so I don't understand why my file is over 1 Gig in size.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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10-16-2002, 06:49 PM
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Hi surferr,

Read this thread: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1294

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10-17-2002, 07:20 PM
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kwag, I read the thread and it does an excellent job of explaining how to predict the movie size prior to encoding, thanks! However it does not state how I can reduce the file size and still retain quality. I have tried several time to duplicate your success with putting 96 mins. onto 1 CD without success. I have gotten nowhere near that file size. Now the script will help tremendously to determine the file size in advance and save me a lot of time, but it does not tell me how to reduce it. I listed me FitCD setting hoping that you could suggest some setting that I may have overlooked or filters that I could use. I have several movies around 90 minutes, give or take, so using the 352X480 template for 1CD would great. Your suggestions in this area would be appreciated. Thanks.

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10-17-2002, 08:26 PM
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Hi surferr,

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kwag, I read the thread and it does an excellent job of explaining how to predict the movie size prior to encoding, thanks! However it does not state how I can reduce the file size and still retain quality. I have tried several time to duplicate your success with putting 96 mins. onto 1 CD without success. I have gotten nowhere near that file size. Now the script will help tremendously to determine the file size in advance and save me a lot of time, but it does not tell me how to reduce it. I listed me FitCD setting hoping that you could suggest some setting that I may have overlooked or filters that I could use. I have several movies around 90 minutes, give or take, so using the 352X480 template for 1CD would great. Your suggestions in this area would be appreciated. Thanks
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You could cut out the movie credits, and/or lower CQ. If your movie
is full screen (4:3) you may not be able to fit it on 1 CD unless you lower
your resolution. (i.e. 352x480, 352x240, etc.). Kwag predictions
were based on wide screen (16:9) for 1 CD.

-black prince
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10-19-2002, 06:41 AM
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I have the same problem, sort of...

If I change to MPEG-2 (no other settings) in the "KVCD-CQ-352x576-(PAL)-PLUS.mcf" for example, will it get blocky and stuff or will the filesize incerase?
I can play movies encoded that way in my DVD but I want to know if there will be a significant quality loss or something before i start to encode...

BTW. if you didn't catch that. my dvd doesn't support "KVCD-CQ-352x576-(PAL)-PLUS.mcf" in MPEG-1.
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10-19-2002, 10:35 PM
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Hey all,

Here's the script I used for 40 days and 40 nights:

LoadPlugin("C:\Video Utils\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Video utils\decomb\Decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\Movie\40 Days\40days.d2v")
Telecide()
BilinearResize(704,350,0,0,720,480)
#TemporalSmoother(2,2)
AddBorders(0,0,0,0)
#Trim(0,138889).FadeOut(150)
#ConvertToRGB24 # For TMPGEnc or VFAPI
#ResampleAudio(44100) # CCE 2.5 'crashfix' for Athlons
#== If you want this 'fix' permanently, edit the INI-file:
#== Under [AVSscript] set CCEcrashfix=1

It's a 95 minute movie, widescreen, CQ@22 upped the audio to 160, fit on 1 CD just fine!
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10-20-2002, 06:46 PM
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Guys,

Thanks for the responses. Black Prince, the movies that I have been encoding are full screen, so maybe that's why I can't get the file size down to 1CD file. I will continue to experiment and learn from others experiences. I appreciate the responses. Thanks.

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11-03-2002, 03:40 PM
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If I encode in MPEG-2 with the same settings as the MPEG-1 template (KVCD-CQ-352x576-(PAL)-PLUS). Will I still get good picture quality, or will there be any major loss?
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11-03-2002, 04:27 PM
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Hi n00b saibot,

You'll get very good quality with MPEG-2 too. Just make sure you're using the latest version of TMPEG. Version 2.58. There's hardly any difference now in its encoding from MPEG-1 or MPEG-2. Only that the MPEG-2 file will be slightly larger.

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