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06-13-2005, 08:34 PM
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I think this software has a long way to go before it's really useable
Looks promising though
But I think I'm quiting it right now, until the next version

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I tried a DVD-R (movie only) ---> RatDVD of "Assualt on Precinct 13".
The DVD-R backup was done after 7 hrs the compressed RatDVD file
was 665MB. I used RatDVD version 0.6.1117 and played it with
Moopeg version 0.2a. The video paused every few minutes and the
audio was out of sync. The picture was very good quality, better than
an SVCD. There were no error messages and I tried to play the RatDVD
file from a 800MB CDR. The video was still pausing and audio out of
sync, but picture was very good as before. Kwag is correct that more
work needs to be done.

BTW, used default settings of RatDVD.

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06-16-2005, 03:07 AM
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The DVD-R backup was done after 7 hrs the compressed RatDVD file
was 665MB. I used RatDVD version 0.6.1117
I'm very surprised (in a good way) to have done my first KDVD <ith this release on my P4 1.6Ghz / 512 MB / win2000 laptop in FOUR hours ! And I was using the PC at the same time . The DVD was a Disney (black cauldron), with movie length 1h17 an total length including bonus near 2h25. Final filesize 1.5 GB (quality setting on 95, the default).

But I have problems to playback and it was too late to solve this yesterday. I'll see tonight.

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There were no error messages and I tried to play the RatDVD
file from a 800MB CDR.
Is it a "movie only" DVD ? Else what is the length of the movie and the total length of all the footage, bonus included ?
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06-20-2005, 07:40 AM
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Movie : Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

Original DVD size : 7.49GB
RatDVD file size (with 5.1 -> 2.0) : 1.44GB
Transcoded DVD size : 6.05GB

Quality : Default 95%

Follow screeshots of DVD generated from ratDVD file (note: ratDVD file was done with previous version of app, being readed and processed correctly by one)







Size of DVD generated: 4.27 GB

For comparing, follow screeshots from original DVD:







(The screeshots were captured with native tool from WinDVD and were compressed in jpg by one itself - I didn't any interference as resize, compression quality etc)

I very like of results. It's really amazing.

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06-20-2005, 07:50 AM
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I very like of results. It's really amazing.
You like the results ?
It's a lot too blurry to be watchable. I don't speak about artefacts all around the picture (with such gain on the filesize, we can appologize this).

Com'on. On the last picture you can barely see the eyes of ... euh... what's his name ? All the stripes from bed cover have disappear also.

The last time I checked if my glasses were clean like touday, I was watching a VCD

Edit: I still can't read the .ratDVD I did on my win2000 laptop

Edit2: BTW; thank you for the snapshots
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06-20-2005, 08:50 AM
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It's a lot too blurry to be watchable. I don't speak about artefacts all around the picture (with such gain on the filesize, we can appologize this).
You've reason indeed. The resulting DVD is very blurry (with screeshots we can see easily). When I say that "I very like ...", I'm thinking a whole thing: the great compression when it go DVD -> ratDVD which generates losses; the reverse process that generates more losses ...Maybe the developer uses the blur effect on the movie for hides and/or avoids pixelation ... I'd hope a worst result, thence my statement. But several "dummies" will like to ... and then to do ratDVD -> DVD, burns the DVD and go ahead ...

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Com'on. On the last picture you can barely see the eyes of ... euh... what's his name ? All the stripes from bed cover have disappear also.
OK, I do agree with you. And I don't remember me of its name too.

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Edit: I still can't read the .ratDVD I did on my win2000 laptop
Oh, that's sucks! Have got you tried the others players suggested at ratDVD home page?

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Edit2: BTW; thank you for the snapshots
Your welcome.

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06-20-2005, 12:39 PM
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Edit: I still can't read the .ratDVD I did on my win2000 laptop
even using ratdvd to play? is working in my windows 2000!
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06-20-2005, 12:45 PM
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even using ratdvd to play? is working in my windows 2000!
Not it does not. Nothing works. Or at least, nothing give a correct image (I manage to have it in black and whithe, in a little tiny window that did the quarter of the screen. lol).
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07-10-2005, 07:45 PM
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Release notes:

Release Notes ratDVD v0.7.1235:
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New Features:

Added Direct burning capability *1
Added ISO creation engine *1
Added MCE (Windows Media Center Edition 2005) support
*ratDVD files are listed as video files
*full control with mouse and remote control
Codec quality/speed optimizations
Added advanced codec options
*Ignore scaler
*Use alternate quantization model
*MV Search Path
*P Bonus
Multi-Language support
*ar - Arabic
*ca - Catalan
*cz - Czech
*de - German
*dk - Danish
*en - English
*es - Spanish
*fr - French
*gr - Greek
*hu - Hungarian
*it - Italian
*nl - Dutch
*pl - Polish
*pt - Portuguese
*pt_BR - Portuguese (Brazil)
*ro - Romanian
*ru - Russian
*sr - Serbian
*sk - Slovak
*th - Thai
*tr - Turkish
*uk - Ukranian
ratDVD naming scheme
*Automatic content based naming extension
Tag editing while adding tagging
Shut down after convert
Setting for conversion task priority
Custom sounds
*For successful completions
*For failed completions
Remote Control Support with WM_Input interface
*Allows usage of WM_Input compatible remote controls (like the Microsoft Media center remote control) to control ratDVD playback.
New default quality set to 105
New maximum quality to 120
Source import plug-in architecture
*Allows extensions for different source material (e.g. ISO Images, all kind of optical media, etc.)
Destination export plug-in architecture
*Allows extensions for all kind of different output targets (e.g. ISO Images, or transcoding to other formats, etc.)
Custom action at end of successful conversion process
*Allows a higher degree of automation (e.g. automatic batch conversions, transfers in ratDVD archives, etc.)

Bug fixes:

Playback fixes:
*Chapter change after seek was sometime not correct
*Wrong time display in Media Player
*Acceptance of only known video render filters solves problems with some codec packs/ffdshow
*Fix for illegal NAV pack positions that sometimes happens in DVD Shrink created discs
*Fix for wrong subtitle display on some movies
*Wrapping of navigation component as COM module – can now be used from all programs system wide
*Fix for wrong audio/subtitle switching at next chapter after seek
*Fix for changing aspect ratio change with VMR9 (Video Mixing Renderer)
*Fix for graph stopping in certain situations
Support for >4GB images
Fix for “list index out of bounds” conversion issue for some movies

Known Issues:

Seek bar in Media Player
*No reset at new title start
*Does not reflect complete length with some movies
Resume ratDVD function in MCE2005 starts movie from the beginning

*1 – Nero needs to be installed for ISO creation / DVD burning functionality

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07-10-2005, 07:56 PM
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I saw that 3 days ago and din't mentioned it because nothing has been done one the quality (that is far poorest than a Divx). For me, until this point is greatly enhanced, RatDVD is useless.

Note: 1 guy, 3 weeks and so much things added ?
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....933&highlight=
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07-10-2005, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dialhot
I saw that 3 days ago and din't mentioned it because nothing has been done one the quality (that is far poorest than a Divx). For me, until this point is greatly enhanced, RatDVD is useless.

Note: 1 guy, 3 weeks and so much things added ?
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....933&highlight=
Same related to quality.
Maybe "they" plans to fight with divx, DVD and another industries?
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07-10-2005, 08:10 PM
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Try this version Phil.
Previous version used to lock up all the time when I selected different chapters, or when I moved the slider forward.
I just tried it on a .Rat file I did last month, and it didn't lock up.
I think I'll encode a movie tonight just to see if the claim of "Codec quality/speed optimizations" is true

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07-10-2005, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodater64
Maybe "they" plans to fight with divx, DVD and another industries?
If these guys get it right, DivX doesn't stand a chance to compete against them, because of all the features of Rat like preserving audio channels, subtitles, menus, etc.
I don't know if the rumors about a DVD manufacturer looking into supporting Rat is true. But I grant you, that if I was a DVD manufacturer, I would already be adding firmware support to include Rat, because we all know what this would mean to the manufacturer, the consumers, and the headache to the MPAA

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12-20-2005, 08:22 PM
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ths concept of rat dvd is interesting however the win xp only functionality makes it as useless as windows xp itself, me being a windows 2000 pro user rat dvd is useless imho
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12-20-2005, 08:29 PM
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ratDVD runs on win2000.
Whats makes it useless is that it is ugly.
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12-20-2005, 08:31 PM
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it runs yes but it doesnt decode/encode for win2000 at least thats the result i got .....
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12-20-2005, 08:33 PM
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Hum... I did encode on win2000 on a former release. I did not try the latest ones. But don't worry, it does not worth the time you spent on it. Just forget.
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