KVCD: Use FORCED FILM?
 

hello i`m spolik and this is my first post,my first time trying to make kvcd movie.i got step by step but i`m very confused now lol
Step 1 ( Ripping )

Using DVD Decrypter:

Insert DVD into DVD-ROM drive
Go to Mode>File (select this option)
Go to Tools>Settings>File Mode>Main Movie
Go to Start>(begin the process)
When done close DVD Decrypter
THIS I CAN DO AND GET ALL MY VOS FILES(I`M TRYING TO BACK UP HARRYPOTTER STONE


Step 2 ( Frameserve )

Using DVD2AVI:

Go to File>open>(select a vob, e.g. vts_01_1.vob, file from Step 1)
dvd2avi will use the rest of the files
Go to Option>Preview (play 1 or 2 minutes of the video)
Watch the “Video Type” field and use the table below to
set Video>Field Operation:

(1) Video Type.................. (2) Field Operation

NTSC at 5% or higher............ None (use decomb in your avs script)
FILM at 95% or lower............ None (use decomb in your avs script)
FILM only (implies 100%)........ Forced FILM
FILM at 96% or higher........... Forced FILM

HERE IS FILM 96 AND 97% SO IT IS FORCED FILM (YES)?



Go to Audio>Track Number>Track 1 (this usually is the English audio channel)
Go to Audio>Dolby Digital>Demux (this creates an .ac3 file)
Go to File>Save Project>(your video .d2v file)
When done close DVD2AVI

HAVE DONE THIS AND I`M ASSUMING THAT THIS IS ONLY THE AUDIO THAT IS BEING SAVED HERE?



Step 3 ( Video )

Creating AVS script file:
HERE I GET CONFUSED? I OPENED FITCD V1.2.4 (THE ONLY ONE I CAN FIND AND THE ONE GUIDE LINKS TOO !
AT THE BOTTOM LEFT UNDER AVISYNTH SCRIPT I ERASED ALL AND PUT THIS
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\UnFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\STMedianFilter.dll")

Mpeg2Source("c:\just testing\harry potter stone.d2v")

undot()
Limiter()
asharp(1, 4)
BicubicResize(336, 222, 0, 0.6, 0, 2, 720, 476)
STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 )
MergeChroma(blur(1.5))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))

ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")

AddBorders(8, 9, 8, 9)
Limiter()

function fmin( int f1, int f2) { return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2}

NOW I CLICK THE BUTTON SAVE SCRIPT AND SAVES IT AS .AVS FILE



Using CalcuMatic:

Video>Source>(locate your .d2v file)
Audio>Bitrate>128
Media>No. of Disks>1
Media>Target>80 min CD
VCD/SVCD Mux Overhead>(click button) <-- THIS IS SHOWING OR CLICK WHEN IT THERE?
Calculate>(click button)
Results>AVG Bitrate>(write this down)
Results>0.57*AVG>(write this down)
Results>Video Size>(write this down)
Results>Audio Size>(write this down)
close and go to Tmpgenc.
THIS I CAN DO SO FAR AS LONG AS THE MUX OVERHEAD IS SUPPOSED TO BE SHOWING?

Setting up Tmpgenc:

Video Source>(locate your .avs script file) <---AVS FILE I SAVED FROM FITCD, BUT AVS FILE IS NOT A CHOICE HERE? DO I USE ALL FILES THEN JUST PUT IT IN THERE?
Load>KVCD-CQ-352X240-_NTSCFilm_-Plus.mcf
Settings>Video>Rate Control Mode>Max Bitrate>1800
Settings>Video>Rate Control Mode>Min Bitrate>(from CalcuMatic [0.57*AVG])
Settings>Advanced>Field Order>Top Field First (Field A)
Settings>Advanced>Source Aspect Ratio>4:3 525 Line (NTSC)
Settings>Advabced>Source Range>Cut Editing>Cut except Currently Selected Area
File>Save Project>Save As Type>TmpGenc Text Project (*.tpr)
Close Tmpgenc.
FINALLY FIGURE THIS ONE OUT WITH THE DROP DOWN TO SAVE AS TEXT PROJECT


Using CQTester:

Project>(locate Tmpgenc's *.tpr)
Setting>Number of Cd's>1
Settings>MB pro CD>790
Multiplex OverHead>32 <<<-----IS THIS THE MB MULTIPLEX? I SEE NO OVERHEAD ANYWHERE?
(Button) Settings>Use Dynamic Test settings
(Button) Settings>Number of GOP's>1
(Button) Settings>Percentage of Film>2
(Button) Settings>Start Offset>2
(Button) Settings>(locate tmpgenc.exe program)
(Button) Opt+Enc <----- THIS BUTTON IS GREYED OUT I CANNOT CLICK IT SO I STUCK HERE AND CAN GO NO FURTHER!!!
I NEED HELP AND AS YOU CAN TELL I`M A NEWBIE AND WILL BE BACK WITH MORE QUESTIONS.
AND AS FOR THE CAPS I DID THIS SO YOU COULD TELL WHERE I WAS TYPING .

Close CQTester

Re: first and first and first
 

Yes. Yes. So far, so good :) Depends of what you are encoding :!:
Click on it and select what your target will be, so the overhead can be computed. Forget about 0.57*AVG
This is not used any longer. :arrow: RESET the source range :!: NO :!:
Use CQMatic ;)

-kwag

Re: first and first and first
 

Nope, this will give you your audio file but also a video d2v file with a few hundred KB as you have already noticed.

Now you got me confused :lol:.
The reason why you use FitCD is so that you get the BicubicResize(...) and AddBorder(...) script text.
With such text you copy it and you paste it on your MA script so that it replaces the original resizing commands.
In case you have doubts try to use this guide http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15233.

Go on clicking the button untill you can read what you need.
Say you want to do a KVCD.
Click the button as many times as needed untill it shows VCD/SVCD mux.
Make a search on the forum for ReadAVS.dll.
This file is needed so that Tmpgenc can read Avisynth scripts.
You can find such file here http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/.
Please, read the instructions carefully.

looking for dll`s
 

hello again and thank you for the replies ,always great to join a forum when people acually help each other out!:)
ok i`ve got as far as to try and use headache and i`m getting a headache lol
i`m trying to get all the dll`s ,
when i open headache i`m getting error that could not get ac3enc interfaces.try newer version from no.url.vu.
also i cannot find the hvorbis.dll file. i have found al the others
this is what i get when i load
HeadAC3he v0.24-a12 by Dark Avenger 22.07.2004

Parsing INI-file...done
Loading azid.dll 1.8 build 825...succeeded
Loading ssrc.dll 1.01 (15.04.2002) engine 1.28...succeeded
Loading lame_enc.dll 1.28 (20.04.2002) engine 3.93...succeeded
Loading hVorbis.dll...failed
Loading MP2enc.dll 1.15 (20.04.2002) engine 1.13...succeeded
Loading MPAlib.dll 1.00 (20.04.2002) engine 1.50...succeeded
Loading AC3enc.dll...failed
Loading libFAAC.dll...succeeded

Notes:
dumb mode: uses absolutely no temp space
float mode: (much) faster, but uses destfile
as temp space on first pass

Choose appropriate target
and press Options 2 times for configuration.

don`t know if this is what it should say or not, i`m one of these people that if it can happen it will happen to me lol.
but i was glad to get pass the cqmatic stage:)
not sure how i got on to cqtester/
thanks
spolik

Re: looking for dll`s
 

What is you CPU ? The dll depends on it.
For instance on my P4 I don't have a hVorbis.dll but a Vorbis.dll.

Silly question: weren't you going for KVCD - that is VCD/SVCD?
Because if so, you don't need the AC3enc.dll or the hVorbis.dll.
You can't make a VCD/SVCD out of an mpeg1/mpeg2 that has been muxed with an AC3 5.1 or 2.0 file.
For VCD/SVCD you will encode your audio on MP2 format, and believe me it sounds very similar to AC3 5.1.
You just need a good A/V receiver with DPL.
In order to produce wonderfull MP2 audio files you have already loaded the needed dll files in headac3he.
Try to load an AC3 file and choose MP2 as the output.
I'm sure it will work.
But you should read some threads/guides on how to tweak headac3he for best sound.
NOTE: it has been sometime that headac3he and besweet have similar quality. If you can't put headac3he to work, then try besweet instead.
Besides besweet is still under development while headac3he developper hasn't coded on it for quite some time.
Cheers

Silly question: weren't you going for KVCD - that is VCD/SVCD?
i`m not sure lol i was just doing step by step in guide for dvd to kvcd.
but i did manage to get headache to make my .mp2 file and i saved it to file and if i go to it i can play it and listen to the audio. but now lol when i open mplex i can put in my mpeg video file but when i try to put in mpeg audio file i cannot see it??????it brings up the open window with the open type of file just says all audio stream ? that it no drop down?
i now file is there but cannot open it in mplex(using version1.0)
so i went back to headache and this time tried to make audio a mp3 file and did so and worked , i can listen to it when i play it but the same thing as mp2 file mplex will not let me open it???????
once again i`d like to thank you `s for all your help as i would just like to get one made lol. then maybe i`d make one all by myself lol
but as you can tell thios is all very new to me! i try reading and doing searches but thet not helping ? i guess i`m not asking the correct questions in my searches?
or maybe i`m just tired and should quit for this evening and start over tommorrow.

Use tmpgenc to mux (file menu -> mpg tool -> simpla multiplex)

It's not a problem because mp3 is not allowed on a VCD :)

Hi spolik,
I'm sorry that I didn't warn you when I pointed MplexGUI as an alternative to bbMpeg.
MplexGUI has a bug: it won't look out for files with extension *.mp2.
Instead it looks for files with extension *.mpa.
So if your file is named movie.mp2 just rename it for movie.mpa and MplexGUI will love your file ;-).
And never try to use MP3 files on KVCD.
The result is much worst than MP2 and it's not within the real specs of VCD/SVCD.
Though there are users that claim that their standalone players can play VCD/SVCD with MP3 audio tracks on it.
I think now you'll be able to finish your 1st KVCD :mrgreen:.
Cheers

finally got it
 

hello as i said i finally got it to work:) i started over from scratch backing up my harry potter azkaban , works great ,i think a little dark , but it may just be the movie?
so i decided to go for #2 backing up my #3dale earnhardt lifestory movie is 92mins, i used dvd decryter, got main movie, then used dvd2avi to get my movie.d2v file, then used headacheto get my audio.mp2 file, then used fitcd to get my .avs file then used tmpgenc and got my tmpgenc text file, next i used cqmatic to encode, then i used BB avi2mpg2 to mux my video and audio and it worked!!! BUT my sound i like 1/2 sec off audio plays then 1/2 to 1 sec there mouths move!:(
i did all the exact same as the harry potter.both are 16:9 fr 23.976fps,vt 96%film (force film) . is there somthing that i might have mucked up ?
or is this normal on some back-ups?
and once again i` like to thank you all for repling and helping, it`s a great feeling when you work on somthing and then it works:)

This is usually due to DVD2AVI audio delay.
Can you post the full name of your extracted ac3 file?
That - will probably tell you how much delay to use in BB or Mplex.
Cheers

If a delay is indicated in the filename by DVD2AVI it's far better to introduce it in headac3che while you convert the ac3 to mp2. If you use it in multiplexing, the day you will use again this sources (to put them on a DVD for instance), you will forget it and will have again a sync problem.

Good thinking Phil.
I had never thought about it in such a perspective.
Thanks.
Cheers

This is usually due to DVD2AVI audio delay.
Can you post the full name of your extracted ac3 file?
That - will probably tell you how much delay to use in BB or Mplex.
Cheers

#3 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
is my ac3 file,
i just deleted all the files and trying again from scratch,
but the time i`m using stereo settings!
i`ve been reading post in forums and there appears to be different opions on these settings.
so i`d thought i`d give it a try as i have nothing to lose but time lol
it`s all a learning experence and i know there will be more errors then not. also i notice in headache inbtween the source and output files there is ms box? should i maybe try different setting here? till i get it correct?
or i`m i way off?

Hi spolik,

Some surround decoders make some high frequency squeaks if you encode your audio as stereo, or even joint stereo.
My RCA receiver/amp is one of them.
So I encode all my MP2 audio as "Dual Channel".
Never had a problem since then :)

-kwag