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I left everything as default on tmpg with the KVCDX3 templates & punched into cqmatic the givin number by calcumatic (1090.2) it was supposed to be a 1 cd encode at 528x480 on a 90 min movie & the damn final video size was 1 gig ... whats going on? whys it doin this to me?
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Ok, this needs further investigation since you should have ended up with approxm. 718MB.
Please post CQMatic's log.
For that simply right-click CQMatic's log window and paste it here on the forum.
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alittle too late for that my friend, as I had shut down cdmatic after the encode
would jobfile do? probably not huh?
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PLEASE USE THE CORRECT FORUM !
And no need to open two threads on the same problem. People are not supposed to read all answers taht have been already given to you.

I am almost positive to say that CQMatic found 89.57 as CQ value. Isn't it ?
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I am almost positive to say that CQMatic found 89.57 as CQ value. Isn't it ?
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
How could I have forgotten about that :banghead:
That's what I get for not using Tmpgenc in a long time...
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thats correct phil cq 89
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Then read the forum.
Here take a look at one of Phil's posts about CQ=87.xx
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90109#90109
It's easy to find it, it just took me 30 secs after pressing the search button on the top of the forum...
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so am i supposed to only have the tpr file in a simple directory eg. c:\KVCD

OR does the d2v & avs files have to be in a simple dir too?
eg. c:\kvcd.d2v or kvcd.avs ??
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06-27-2005, 03:24 AM
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What is important is the files that are referenced INTO the tpr. Only the avs is in this case. But it's a good habit to put them all in a place with a short pathname.

But be carefull that there is others things to check. Not only the filename length.
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06-27-2005, 03:40 AM
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my dvd source is sitting on d:\Temp Video Conversion\dvd shrink temp\ along with my ripped subs.
my d2v is d:\kvcd.d2v
my avs is c:\kvcd.avs & c:\kvcd.tpr & I'm still getting negative # file size
do the negative numbers disapear if it predicting correct?

i am using a decimal in avg bitrate calculated (1090.2)
could this have to do with the problem????????
i know for a fact its not the source rage thing (i clear it everytime)
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Please read.
You need to reset your project.
That's all written in Phil's post.
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Quote:
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I'm still getting negative # file size
do the negative numbers disapear if it predicting correct?
Do you know a filesize that can be negative AND correct ?
Of course when all is okay, these numbers are positive.

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i am using a decimal in avg bitrate calculated (1090.2)
could this have to do with the problem????????
It is not but there is no need to have such a precision either.

Post the log file of CQMatic there is others things in it that can lead us towards the solution.
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06-27-2005, 05:48 AM
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thnkx phil let me setup everything in 1 dir at see if the negs stop
see you later 2nite
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k ... I moved everything to d:\ & kept all simple names but to no avail.
same ish different pile. Here the log, hope u can help

CQMatic Version 1.4.08
http://www.kvcd.net
Copyright KVCD.Net, 2004.
All rights reserved.
Time: 06:29:33 Date: 06/27/2005
Ready!
Project: D:\TPR.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

C:\User Doc#39s & Settings\Win XP Lite Edition\Desktop\AVS.m1v
Project resolution: 544x480
Execute.
Movie Time: 90:40
Average Bitrate: 1090
Full Encode mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Process started at 06:30:33
On 06/27/2005
Preparing for calibration phase...
Calibration phase started.
Step 1 of 10.
Step 2 of 10.
Step 3 of 10.
Step 4 of 10.
Step 5 of 10.
Step 6 of 10.
Step 7 of 10.
Step 8 of 10.
Step 9 of 10.
Step 10 of 10.
Calibration phase complete.
CQ set for prediction
Setting up sampling.
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.67 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 60.000000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 60.00
Current CQ = 75.00
CQ difference = 15.000000
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 2
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.72 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 75.000000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 75.00
Current CQ = 82.50
CQ difference = 7.500000
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 3
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.67 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 82.500000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 82.50
Current CQ = 86.25
CQ difference = 3.750000
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 4
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.68 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 86.250000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 86.25
Current CQ = 88.13
CQ difference = 1.875000
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 5
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.67 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 88.125000
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 88.13
Current CQ = 89.06
CQ difference = 0.937500
Phase 1 of 7, cycle 6
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.68 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 89.062500
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.06
Current CQ = 89.53
CQ difference = 0.468750
Setting up sampling.
Phase 2 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.53 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 89.531250
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.53
Current CQ = 89.77
CQ difference = 0.234375
Setting up sampling.
Phase 3 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.58 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 89.765625
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.77
Current CQ = 89.88
CQ difference = 0.117188
Setting up sampling.
Phase 4 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.62 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 89.882813
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.88
Current CQ = 89.94
CQ difference = 0.058594
Setting up sampling.
Phase 5 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.60 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 89.941406
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.94
Current CQ = 89.97
CQ difference = 0.029297
Setting up sampling.
Phase 6 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.57 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 89.970703
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.97
Current CQ = 89.99
CQ difference = 0.014648
Setting up sampling.
Phase 7 of 7, cycle 1
Encoder started...
Process time: 1.62 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = -5143265.500000
Low fence: 89.985352
High fence: 90.000000
Last CQ = 89.99
Current CQ = 89.99
CQ difference = 0.007324
Final CQ value is 89.73
Encoding test sample at 89.73
Encoding set to Full encode.
Full encode start...
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 27.80
Process ended at 06:58:21
On 06/27/2005
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06-27-2005, 09:44 AM
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Look at all your "File size difference" results
They are ALL negative
Check your settings again.

Edit: Change this: C:\User Doc#39s & Settings\Win XP Lite Edition\Desktop\AVS.m1v
To something shorter.

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Okay, according to the time of each prediction step (a few minutes), your problem is not in the source range.

The problem is :
1/ in the length of the filenames. Open the tpr file and look at all the filename that are stored into it. If you find a "+" in a name, this is not good

2/ the character used in these filename : the same look into the tpr project to see if you see something that should not be there (# , ' , ...)

3/ you have an audio source defined n your project. Do not do that. Only a video source.

Finally, remove the two "tpr" files taht are in the same directory that CQMatic and relaunch it.
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ok I don't see any +, & have no audio defined as I'm using kvcdX3 templated (with resolution set to kvcdx3a BUT ...
could this be the problem, it says ...

Job.OutputFileName = 'C:\User Doc'#39's & Settings\Win XP Lite Edition\Desktop\AVS.m1v'

But it should say ...

Job.OutputFileName = 'C:\User Doc's & Settings\Win XP Lite Edition\Desktop\AVS.m1v'

I don't have a folder called \User Doc'#39's & Settings\
The actual folder is called \User Doc's & Settings\

So what to do now?
should I jus do what kwag said & set output file to d:\?
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06-27-2005, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
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ok I don't see any +, &
I told you to look into your filenames to see if you see a # or a '

And what do you have in your filename ??? a ' that is turned by tmpgenc into a #39

:banghead:

Note: in the original post that I wrote, and that Rui told you to look, I wrote :
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2/ do not use special char in names (no space, nothign else than letters and digits)
I think this is self explanatory, isn't it ?
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I didnt even relize i had that folder regular xp users have
c:\documents & settings
I have xp lite which has c:\user doc's & settings
thanks for the help guys lets see how she blows
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Quote:
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c:\documents & settings
I have xp lite which has c:\user doc's & settings
thanks for the help guys lets see how she blows
A nice crappy warez shit done by people not even abble to speak a correct english ("user's docs", any better ?).

I can do nothing but urging you to remove this "thing" from your PC before to face to a lot of other problems.
Like this one :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....hlight=#118747

You see, everything has an explanation in the end...
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