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Have never attempted this, being in NTSC land. Can someone post a sample script an a few comments to get me started. I've searched through the posts without any real success. These films have English subtitles.

Would really appreciate.
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Have never attempted this, being in NTSC land. Can someone post a sample script an a few comments to get me started. I've searched through the posts without any real success. These films have English subtitles.

Would really appreciate.
You can read it: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....ght=dgpulldown

Do use your usual script without change pal fps, but resizing to ntsc resolution.
Be sure your avisynth output is progressive, so your final video stream also will be. dgpulldown manages progressive material.
After it apply dgpulldown.

http://neuron2.net/dgpulldown/dgpulldown.html
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As this film is interlaced (16x9), 25fps, what script line should I use to make progressive (deinterlace)? I'm going to first figure out how to process this, then investigate subtitles.

I will get resize line from fitcd. Input is anamorphic, so will test both 704x480 anamorphic out and 704x480 non-anamorphic out. Is there any difficulties with adding subtitles to anamorphic?

Will use Boulders one script:

Mpeg2Source("H:\video\film.d2v",idct=7)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)
TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)
BicubicResize(688,352,0,0.6,8,0,704,576)
Limiter()
ConverttoRGB24()
AddBorders(8,64,8,64)

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As this film is interlaced (16x9), 25fps, what script line should I use to make progressive (deinterlace)?
You don't tell a lot on your source (DV capture ? TV capture ? DVD ?) so I will assume you are in the last situation :
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Telecide(order=1,guide=2,post=0)
(line found in 3 sec using the "search" button )
Note: are you *sure* it is interlaced ? 5% of my DVD are interlaced, not more. Movies genereally aren't, but TV shows are.

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I'm going to first figure out how to process this, then investigate subtitles.
You won't have any problem with subtitles if you use the "dgpulldown" way. The same for the audio.

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I will get resize line from fitcd. Input is anamorphic, so will test both 704x480 anamorphic out and 704x480 non-anamorphic out. Is there any difficulties with adding subtitles to anamorphic?
The same, we can't guess which kind of subtitle you wish. Hard coded or selectable ? We don't even know if you are doing a DVD a or VCD !

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Will use Boulders one script:

Mpeg2Source("H:\video\film.d2v",idct=7)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)
TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2)
BicubicResize(688,352,0,0.6,8,0,704,576)
Limiter()
ConverttoRGB24()
AddBorders(8,64,8,64)
Forget about limiter and the convertto lines, they are absolutly useless.
Mode 2 is better in removegrain than mode 1 but I don't remember when Boulder adviced to use mode 1.
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Thanks, Phil

As usual, left out major point. This is dvd (purchased in Paris a couple months ago). Stepped through with VirtualDub and it appears to have no interlaced frames, although DVD2AVI says it is interlaced. Will process as is and use DGPulldown.

Sorry about all the questions, but my encodes have been ntsc captures from my PVR250 and I've never tried anything PAL before.

Would prefer being able to select subtitles, but wish to take easiest route. Will author with DVDLab Pro.
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Thanks, Phil

As usual, left out major point. This is dvd (purchased in Paris a couple months ago). Stepped through with VirtualDub and it appears to have no interlaced frames, although DVD2AVI says it is interlaced. Will process as is and use DGPulldown.

Sorry about all the questions, but my encodes have been ntsc captures from my PVR250 and I've never tried anything PAL before.

Would prefer being able to select subtitles, but wish to take easiest route. Will author with DVDLab Pro.
DVD2AVI shows a lot of movie pal dvd as interlaced, but actually are not. When you have some doubt, search for combing effect, it is to say truth in what you see.


Edited: You can try this http://www.vmesquita.com/forum/index.php?topic=1142.0 portuguese guide to direct subtitles with DVDLab Pro.
It is easy to do, follow pics. If you have any doubt, just ask me.
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Edited: You can try this http://www.vmesquita.com/forum/index.php?topic=1142.0 portuguese guide to direct subtitles with DVDLab Pro.
It is easy to do, follow pics. If you have any doubt, just ask me.
Better try http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....asc&highlight=

I traslated original guide.
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DVD2AVI shows a lot of movie pal dvd as interlaced, but actually are not. When you have some doubt, search for combing effect, it is to say truth in what you see.
I usually load vob into VirtualDub and step through frames to see if any combing. Is this safest way to insure that it is progressive?
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I usually load vob into VirtualDub and step through frames to see if any combing. Is this safest way to insure that it is progressive?
Yes, it is.
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Used guide you translated with subrip. Everything seems to be working ok. Can I configure DVDLab Pro to select with or without subtitles?

Thanks.
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Used guide you translated with subrip. Everything seems to be working ok. Can I configure DVDLab Pro to select with or without subtitles?

Thanks.
Your welcome.

If I understand well you question, you can select if your subtitles are on or off when DVD starts in same sub1 window:

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And if yur question is "can I do a menu with a button to select or not the subtitle", then yes. Right click on the button you want in the menu and select "Link -> Set Subtitle -> Subtitle stream 1 + Restart Menu".

There are a lot of other ways but this is the easiest.
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And if yur question is "can I do a menu with a button to select or not the subtitle", then yes. Right click on the button you want in the menu and select "Link -> Set Subtitle -> Subtitle stream 1 + Restart Menu".

There are a lot of other ways but this is the easiest.
A couple questions, as I'm obviously screwing this up:

When I run SubRip, it creates .sst file which I save in same folder as bmp files. When I am loading into DVDLab Pro, this file does not appear, but I do load all the bmp files.

Should the .sst file be listed in DVDLab?

I created 2 buttons, "Play" and "Play with subtitles".

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Right click on the button you want in the menu and select "Link -> Set Subtitle -> Subtitle stream 1 + Restart Menu".
Did that. When I play the new film and click on my "Play with subtitles" button, it returns to main menu. When I then click on my "Play" button, it plays without subtitles, the same as if I do not first click on my "Play with subtitles" button.

How can I set this to play without subtitles with my "Play" button and to play with subtitles with my "Play with subtitles" button?
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And if yur question is "can I do a menu with a button to select or not the subtitle", then yes. Right click on the button you want in the menu and select "Link -> Set Subtitle -> Subtitle stream 1 + Restart Menu".

There are a lot of other ways but this is the easiest.
A couple questions, as I'm obviously screwing this up:

When I run SubRip, it creates .sst file which I save in same folder as bmp files. When I am loading into DVDLab Pro, this file does not appear, but I do load all the bmp files.

Should the .sst file be listed in DVDLab?

I created 2 buttons, "Play" and "Play with subtitles".

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Right click on the button you want in the menu and select "Link -> Set Subtitle -> Subtitle stream 1 + Restart Menu".
Did that. When I play the new film and click on my "Play with subtitles" button, it returns to main menu. When I then click on my "Play" button, it plays without subtitles, the same as if I do not first click on my "Play with subtitles" button.

How can I set this to play without subtitles with my "Play" button and to play with subtitles with my "Play with subtitles" button?
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Should the .sst file be listed in DVDLab?
Not in the Assets import window, but in the subtitle import window (you have to click on a subtitle track, that will open the subtitle management window, where you find an "import" button -> point 13 and 14 in the guide translated by Pro).

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How can I set this to play without subtitles with my "Play" button and to play with subtitles with my "Play with subtitles" button?
The first button is easy (just select "Movie 1" as link). The second is little more tricky. You have to learn about VM commands. Go on mediachance site to pick up some guides about VM commands and VM command widget (in connexion window).

I can give you the commands you need, but explaining how to use the "VM Command" widget in the connexion window is too long to do here.

For instance read that (it's far more tricky than what you need but this is where I learnt all about VM commands) :
http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/tu.../amanager.html
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I can give you the commands you need, but ......
Would really appreciate.

Also, when I try to:

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import the Not in the Assets import window, but in the subtitle import window (you have to click on a subtitle track, that will open the subtitle management window, where you find an "import" button -> point 13 and 14 in the guide translated by Pro).
I did guide steps and created a .sst file in the same directory as the .bmp files.

I get "Unsupported File Type Error" when importing .sst into DVDLab (Steps 13 & 14). I will try again tonight.

Really appreciate all the aid and information. Sorry it is so "step by step", but hopefully I'll have it down pat after this.
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I can give you the commands you need, but ......
Would really appreciate.
BTW, you can read also the pdf guide that is in the "help" directory of DVDLabPro. On page 191 you have all about VM.

The commands you need to enter are :
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SetSTN (audio=0 subp=0:on )
JumpVTS_TT 1
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Thanks, Phil, as usual.
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Be carefull I edited the commands (subp=0: on, and not "off" like I wrote before)
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Tried several times, following guide exactly. When I try to import the sst file I created and saved with the bmp files into DVDLab Pro, I still get "Unsupported File Type Error". Can I try some other format - file type?
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