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10-06-2005, 10:28 AM
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I tried this way to compare width when height was 560, but I can make height lower than 528 but not higher than 528. It stops when I arrive to this figure. Some internal limit to avoid a width greater than 720?.
Yeo I know thats "still" a limitation but will be made more tolerant.
In your case if you would go higher, that would mean cropping the width before in a more significant way to still keep the 720 max mpeg4/nero "Standard Profile"-width wich is 720. And thats also the max width for encodes accepted on the most mp4/AVI supporting SAPs in that Inputmode.

If for instance you got a PAL anamorph 720 source and make a "to-nonamamorph" PAR1:1 resizing, then the max width will be 1040 as suggestion (Full DVD 720px width @ PAR1:1 @ roundedDownMOD16!), so watch out as for SAP compatibility you should then lower the height till the final width gets 720 or 704.

Anyway that limit when more sizing up the height is wanted will be kicked out so or so as THIS would make Pan-Scanning of the source image Posible (if someone really needs that as it kills Moviearea in a hughe way)
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1:1. SPAs consider all MPEG4 as 1:1 and you have distortion if you encode them 4:3.
I dont remeber the review site (*grrr) but there are some Chips on specific players used which just do use the same routine as in mpeg1/2 mode, just a proper 1:1 recognision is added. Means also non-Par 1:1 is supported to be played back correct on TV, like 720x576.

But thats as said no standard (now) and should be tested.

For my personal test it doesnt make sense to crush an 4:3 image into 720x540 as the height will be scaled for the TV and NO interlaced encodes are possible. 702(704)x576 for me is (still) the perfect way to end up for (still) analogue TV purposes.

In case of interlaced you would have to MotionBob the source to for example 720x540 but at 50fps! to at least keep the known movement-smoothness in interlaced video. But if you deal with a fieldblendedsource then happy-blending will be on the TV or Plasma/LCD
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10-06-2005, 01:52 PM
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Fabrice, thanks for the bugreport on the overhead of the NTSC target size!
There maybe occured a hughe error when coding more into the deep of the mpeg4 resizing core, so ....

The wanted PAL/NTSC mpeg2/1 final targetsize is now matching.

@ ALL
TRASH 0.08 or 0.07 and change to 0.09
cause of the fixed bug which was discovered by fabrice. Its was probably present since the mpeg4 target support.

http://home.arcor.de/packshot/PARanoia_0.09b.exe
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10-07-2005, 07:10 AM
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finally..!!!!!!!!!!

this version works for me, i was going insane trying to get this to work with my setup...thanx for the new update.!
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10-07-2005, 08:12 AM
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Downloaded Inc,

I can't make resizing height as original height yet, am I doing anything wrong?.

Edit: Ooops, I see you already edited your post. I guess that resizing up it's not implemented...
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10-07-2005, 09:50 AM
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In some cases in mpeg4 resizing you can, but when I recognised that it isnt totally supported I edited my post.

The "little" tricky thing is, that the recommended eight result forces internally to be the maximum height for avoiding too much copping of the width.
On the one hand this "safe barrier" makes outputs less cropped in the width, but on the other hand no panscanning is possible. So this means a new "if" routine above the present routine.
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10-07-2005, 11:17 AM
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Just a slight cosmetic bug: 'safe' should be 'save'.
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10-07-2005, 03:10 PM
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ok, this may set me up for an attack, but I never had tried resizing before encoding, and I cant believe the difference, i used to got right into it with what ever TOK gave me....all I can say is WOW..! the quality of the final video is what I have been looking for.. not everyone knows everything, even after being here into this site for 2+ years I just thought that what I was doing and learning was fine, and BOOM>>>! something I had not really tried turns out to be the best thing ever..........

just thought I would mention this is all..........................................
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10-07-2005, 03:57 PM
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You mean that you used to encode in full res (720x480) ?
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10-07-2005, 06:33 PM
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no, i just never used any resizing tools to get the right size down before encoding, now i see the results of using a program that adjusts the size to the proper size before encode..........i mostly do 352x240 or 480x480.or 352x288 - 480x576.........but would let MovieStacker and TOK do the work.
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10-07-2005, 07:28 PM
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Settings will be written into an ini file on exit und loaded when starting again.

Mpeg4 Resoltion Profiles added in "Settings".

http://home.arcor.de/packshot/PARanoia_0.10b.exe
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10-13-2005, 05:19 PM
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First try, first shot.
v0.10b
Avisynth in default %programfiles% folder, that in my spanish XP version is "C:\Archivos de programa\AviSynth 2.5"
(I don't remember if i added 2.5 or it is the default folder, does it matter?, avisynth is correctly installed as it works fine always)



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10-13-2005, 05:35 PM
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Would it be possible to add in "avisynth script" menu, an option for load a base avs scipt from maybe a paranoia\scripts subfolder. Then at source-resize usual generated script, paranoia would append the base script.
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MPEG2Dec3_mpeg2source("E:\DVD Authoring Working Folder\Pitch Black\Pitch Black.d2v")
BicubicResize(720,512,4,0,712,506)
Addborders(0,32,0,32)

lremovedust(17,1) #only this is the appended script that user must to edit in the script window to locate in the right position
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MPEG2Dec3_mpeg2source("E:\DVD Authoring Working Folder\Pitch Black\Pitch Black.d2v")
BicubicResize(720,512,4,0,712,506)

lremovedust(17,1)

Addborders(0,32,0,32)
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10-13-2005, 07:04 PM
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MUCH RESPECT PLAYER!!
Love the tool
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10-14-2005, 01:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodater64
Would it be possible to add in "avisynth script" menu, an option for load a base avs scipt from maybe a paranoia\scripts subfolder. Then at source-resize usual generated script, paranoia would append the base script.
I do quote my To do List of the first post:

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To Do (beside fixing bugs):
- Option for entering the vertical resizing so pan-scanning can be done.
- Option for integrating readymade avs fuction templates into resulting scripts
- Option for PAR 1:1 mpeg4 resizing results
- Support of captured avi inputs incl. taking the specific cards/drivers individual µs into account.
- Histogram preview for checking the correct Luma of the source.
Regarding your error. Well I'll have a look at it.
Meanwhile do put a copy of MPEG2Dec3.dll in PARanoias folder.
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10-14-2005, 01:22 AM
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodater64
Would it be possible to add in "avisynth script" menu, an option for load a base avs scipt from maybe a paranoia\scripts subfolder. Then at source-resize usual generated script, paranoia would append the base script.
I do quote my To do List of the first post:

...

Regarding your error. Well I'll have a look at it.
Meanwhile do put a copy of MPEG2Dec3.dll in PARanoias folder.
Sorry Inc, i missed that list.
Also i did your suggestion as error message say it, thanks.
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10-14-2005, 02:24 AM
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And a "little" hint: Do switch to DgIndex and dgdecode.dll
--> No Frameloss --> More options --> more developed
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10-14-2005, 05:04 AM
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And a "little" hint: Do switch to DgIndex and dgdecode.dll
--> No Frameloss --> More options --> more developed
Thanks, i have both, only testing.
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10-14-2005, 09:48 AM
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And a "little" hint: Do switch to DgIndex and dgdecode.dll
--> No Frameloss --> More options --> more developed
Off topic, but with DgIndex which option should I use for 23fps "Film", "Honor Flags" or "Force Film"? In DVD2AVI, would use 'Force Film".
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10-14-2005, 09:54 AM
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The mode are : Honor pulldown, Ignore pulldown and Force film.
The mode to use is still Force film.

Note: there is a very good manual delivered now.
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