I have a Pioneer DV-380-S and it reads virtually *anything* that I throw at it.
This is the latest generation for Pioneer SAP products and they're based on MediaTek's chipsets (basically chinese chipsets). You can't run a test on SAP generations that read everything. You gotta go deep into 3 or 4 year old SAPs and I'm sure you'll find plenty of SAPs that just can't read mplayer output correctly. If I had an encoder and wanted to test it, I'd choose a 4 year old Philips state of the art DVD player. They're know to *stick to the standards*. Hell, some of them don't even read KSVCD :lol:. Cheers |
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- Overflow problem - Motion vector range problem 1) Overflow problem My multipass profil solve this problem only for medium/low bitrate encoding. If you want something like average q3 encoding or less my profil work without underflow. 2) Motion Vector Range problem Old SAP like Pioneer, Philips and Koss use strict motion vector range (512 pixel for horizonal vector and 128 for vertical vector) and these old SAP are completely unable to play MPEG2 without strict motion vector range compliance. Now Mencoder is able to set max motion vector range (me_range for horizontal/vertical motion vector) and can produce strict motion vector range compliance for these old player. New: It's possible to use coef > 7 now for libavcodec. You can use if you want Notch matrix with mencoder. |
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And the others profiles that you would go post them here :?: I'm looking forward for them ... Cheers, |
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Now try to find incompatible SAP yourself if you want with my stream. IMO I prove that my mencoder stream are compliant (with all possible software and all your "reference" SAP). @Danpos Well I use simply MPEG2 encoder for PAL DVD progressive encoding. Unfurtunaly I don't have time for test other encoding profil ... |
Listen Sagittaire, cut the bullshit and admit that noone besides you will ever use an encoder that can't handle certain settings that you might choose.
If someone/something has to refrain that should never be the end user. If the encoder knows that it will fail in certain conditions then it should advise the user that it will disable certain settings in order to procede with the encoding. Mencoder/ffmpeg can be the best codec out there but noone will be interested in it's magical quality until it gets some serious fixing in those bugs. Plus, I told you that there were SAPs out there that couldn't play Mencoder output but besides my AG I didn't specify which models didn't like it. It was Dialhot who told you about DV-444 and DVR-220, not me. I will completely refuse to do your work. You're the one interested in proving that mencoder is compliant, not me. So don't come saying that you did your part of the game and that it worked for you and that now it's me who has to go out to prove my point. You gotta be kidding me!!! Cheers |
Well You say always "Mencoder can't make compliant stream". I say "I think that Mencoder can make complaint stream and I will try to prove that".
- I post my profil CLI and my procedure encoding for Mencoder - I try all possible sofware to check stream - I try all your "reference SAP" - hank315 say problem is motion vector length and new me_range setting solve this problem Try to use my mencoder stream with your "el cheapo" AG DVD-336K and post result here if you want ... :idea: And I repeat for the last time little doom9 thread with hank315: Quote:
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I can't make more ... my stream is not DVD compliant ... well ... prove it if you want now. |
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I don't need to proove a damn thing to you :!: It's the other way around: it is you who need to proove everything. And there's one thing that you can't forget: if you want to proove something you'll have to use a SAP that goes stricktly by the book. So go find a 4 year old Philips SAP and try your encodes. If they work fine then you have another problem: how will you try to convince anyone to use an encoder that goes nuts and produces garbage when you press the wrong button??? Sagittaire :arrow: get a life... |
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And IMO, libavcodec isn't the best encoder in the world so why bother with all kinds of scripts, profiles and others hassels? |
Forget about it gamma.
He will never understand that there are better things in life instead of spending hours trying to create a Mencoder CLI that will not bomb when it plays in a SAP for every encoding project we have. On the other hand he's right. He launched a legit question to the forum: which is the best MPEG2 encoder according to metrics. He didn't say that we wouldn't be able to rule out an encoder just because it ain't compliant or because it can easily produce an uncompliant stream...:roll: To tell you the truth, I'm outta here for good :!: |
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I'm outta here also! |
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