Kwag,

I was wonder if it were possible to encode animes using your kvcd template. When I encode Samurai X I get lots of jerky motion during motion scene but none on movies. Is it because animes need to be encoded at 29.97 fps as oppose to 23.97. I used to have this problem to with normal vcd encoding but I fixed it, but for the kvcd template I don't have a solution. I'd really appreciate it if you would help or anyone, thanks!

hmm ic kwag, but say if i encode that 352x240 to 352x480 using the kvd temp then encode the 352x480 file with kvcdx2 will it look better?

Hi FRANKTKA:

Encode your movie with an AviSynth script with decomb.dll.
Here's the instructions:
http://www.doom9.org/decomb.htm

kwag

Every generation is worse quality than the previous.
Just like commercial DVD's are created from original material ( uncompressed ) and look extraordinary, If you take your DVD and re-compress it, it looks worse. Re-encode that mpeg again and now it's worse than the previous. You get the idea.

kwag

I'm having problems with the sound skipping every few seconds with your Matrix sample on the new template, any solutions?

Had the same problem with movies 352x480.

G

I mean samples using the new 2 cd templet, i would love to see one and can't since my bloody samsung dvd drive still won't work, I have tried captures but I only have one source digital satellite. Some channels have macroblocks which means they wont work with this templet other have noise whih creates an "intresting" effect where the b and p frames can be scene as they get worse and worse then when an i frame comes in it looks great for a secod then gets worse again..

So samples would be great kwag,

how about that matrix splash scene or the lobby shootout or even the fight between neo and mr.smith in the subway?

Baker

Here baker. Just for you!
15 second, 3MB, lobby shootout.
Done with the 2CD template. No changes.
http://www.kvcd.net/2cdsamp.mpg

kwag

Hey Kwag, what's the final file size of Matrix using kvcdX2 for 2 cds?

Hi bigbob2:

I don't know
Haven't tried it yet.
I'll encode it tonight, and let you know tomorow.

kwag

Hi Kwag......have bee big fan of your templates. I ripped a James Taylor music DVD (109 mins) using the KVCDx2 (PAL) 1CD template and it ended up being 1.36GB. Movement does not seem to be excessive. Is this to be expected?

Cheers and keep up the good work (there must be a book you have to write).

yep thanks kwag i get the idea

( I Posted this same thing on vcdhelp, just posting it here also for those guys who come here more than vcdhelp (thanks for the sample kwag!))

As you know already I plan to soon get a dvd burner and when I do I don't want to have to re-encode every movie I own as this would take a long time. So I decided that although 3cds is way too much and will be very annoying but that in the long term it will be worth while. So I opened up the dvd templet in tmpgenc and started modifing it. I worked out that my avg bitrate will have to be around 2100 to fit on 3 cds confortably so the first place I went to was the bitrate. The minumum is and was of course 2000 so I couldn't change that and since my avg was going to be around 2100 my max was already 2200 so I am at a loss as to what to do now! I also loaded in your q. matrix and changed the audio to 160 dual channel. I am wondering now if since my bitrate ranges from 2000-2200 will cbr not be a better option for me?

UPDATE:My test results came back and I was very impressed indeed! However high action scenes resulted in blocks so I am now considering on uping the max bitrate to around 2400 or there abouts.

So in short my question is:
From the info above would 2000(UPDATE: now 2350) cbr not be a quicker safer option for me insted of cq?

P.S for those of you with dvd burners you may well be intrested in my templet, it will get you 3-4 movies on one dvd-r in dvd quailty which means that you will save money on those expensive dvd-rs!


Baker

It came out to 1,263,405KB.
So I'm encoding tonight "The Green Mile", which is 3 hours long.
If that movie fits with the 2-CD template, I'm changing the name from "120 minutes in 2 CD's" to "180 minutes in 2 CD's"
I will encode also with the audio set at 160Khz. To bump up the audio quality a little.

Anyone can try encoding "Superman the movie", which is also around 3 hours, with the 2-CD template? Volunteers?

I'll post results as soon as I have the result. Will encode that tonight.

kwag

KWAG,

I was planning on upgrading my system for faster encoding should I just buy a 2.2 ghz Intel Processor or should I get the latest XP processor, does anyone know which one encodes faster, and also if I use a dual processor setup, would it increase encoding time and if so with which processor would it be faster, intels or xp's, thanks!

A dual processor will be a screamer!. But even a single 2Ghz machine would be great.
Take a look at some prices here.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati..._tlc.asp?id=06

kwag

Kwag,

Noticed another problem with the new template, possibly have to do with the GOP settings. I noticed there are quite a lot of sudden shifting back and forth in brightness level all throughout the encoded movie (Enemy At The Gates) using Windvd. I said it might have to do with the GOP settings because I then re-encoded parts of the movie where this occurs the most obvious using the same kvcdX2 template but with the default vcd GOP setting, 1-5-2 instead of 1-18-3, and I don't see this weird shifting in brightness anymore (but with poorer quality + blocks).

I can see this weird shifting of brightness in one of your sample clips too, just watch it carefully using Windvd, it happens right before the guy says "What was he doing downstairs?" Remember, the change is not huge but noticeable.
http://www.kvcd.net/kvcdx2-short.mpg

Any ideas?

I can see the shift in brightness in the sample, but I also see it in the original DVD. That part is a change of light, because they are in a train.
The movie is "Under Siege 2".

kwag

just for people using the new kdvd templet on cd-rs than burn it as a svcd.

Baker

To everyone:

Thanks to bigbob2 for pointing out this problem with the changes in brightness. The problem was most noticeable in long continuous scenes without scene changes, and low lighted scenes. I was able to duplicate the problem, I saw the effect, and here's what I did to fix it:

Here's what happened. There's a value in TMPEG under the GOP tab, "MAX number of frames in GOP", which defaults to "0". When set like this, TMPEG can make a very long GOP sequence, because the value "0" means "Automatic". So there was no limitations to the number of GOP's. As the I frames go further apart from each other, there is a loss in quality and brightness, and because the GOP was so long, every time a new I frame was re-inserted you would see a brightness increase. I changed this value to 48, meaning that every 48 frames ( about 2 seconds ) TMPEG will always re-insert a new I frame. I also checked the box "No motion search for still picture part by half pixel" under the Quantize Matrix".

So make this two changes to your KVCD and KVCDx2 templates.

The GOP should now read 1-18-3-1-48 instead of 1-18-3-1-0 in the KVCDx2 template and 1-15-3-1-48 in the KVCD template.

Check the "No motion search for still picture part by half pixel" under the Quantize Matrix.

I'll update the templates in the site later today, to reflect this values.

Thanks bigbob2!,
kwag

Wow, what a nice quick fix! Works great now.
Thank you again Kwag! U da man!