KVCD: 480x480 MPEG-1 Template? - Page 2

kwag · #21 01-01-2003, 10:57 PM

GEE!, I walk out for ~8 hours, and I feel lost

. Took me about an hour to get back in sync reading all new posts

We just finished watching "Sum of all fears", which I encoded last night with the x3 (528x480) on one CD, and it looked great

( Great movie too

)

-kwag

gonzopdx · #22 01-01-2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kwag

We just finished watching "Sum of all fears", which I encoded last night with the x3 (528x480) on one CD, and it looked great

( Great movie too

)

How do you get such high quality encodes? Do you use any smoothers besides FluxSmooth? Please share! I'm bashing my head against the wall trying this and I can't seem to get any encodes that look nearly as good as your samples..

kwag · #23 01-01-2003, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

We just finished watching "Sum of all fears", which I encoded last night with the x3 (528x480) on one CD, and it looked great

( Great movie too

)

How do you get such high quality encodes? Do you use any smoothers besides FluxSmooth? Please share! I'm bashing my head against the wall trying this and I can't seem to get any encodes that look nearly as good as your samples..

This is the .avs I used for that movie:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("K:\SUM_OF_ALL_FEARS\VIDEO_TS\sum.d2v")
LegalClip()
BilinearResize(496,336,8,0,704,480)
FluxSmooth()
Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.4, seed=1)
AddBorders(16,72,16,72)
LegalClip()

#Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

I even put a very low .4 "noise" in there just for the hell of it

The complete movie looks just like the sample I posted previously. The bit rates were MIN=300 and MAX=2,500 using CQ mode, BETA-1 matrix, and a CQ value of 63.6

-kwag

gonzopdx · #24 01-02-2003, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kwag

The complete movie looks just like the sample I posted previously. The bit rates were MIN=300 and MAX=2,500 using CQ mode, BETA-1 matrix, and a CQ value of 63.6

This is what I don't understand. My scripts that I've been using are almost identical and my movies look nowhere near as good as yours do.

I have a 97 minute movie I'm trying to encode @ 528x480.. very low action (Jay & Silent Bob).. CQ of 50 is too much to fit on one CD.

I don't get it.

kwag · #25 01-02-2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

This is what I don't understand. My scripts that I've been using are almost identical and my movies look nowhere near as good as yours do.

I have a 97 minute movie I'm trying to encode @ 528x480.. very low action (Jay & Silent Bob).. CQ of 50 is too much to fit on one CD.

I don't get it.

Double check that you are using the KVCD matrix ( Or BETA-1 matrix ) and the GOP 1-12-2-1-24.
AviSynth 2.07.
TMPGEnc 2.59.
Latest versions of SansGrip's filters.
DVD2AVI 1.76.

I can't think of anything else

-kwag

apoc · #26 01-02-2003, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

This is what I don't understand. My scripts that I've been using are almost identical and my movies look nowhere near as good as yours do.

I have a 97 minute movie I'm trying to encode @ 528x480.. very low action (Jay & Silent Bob).. CQ of 50 is too much to fit on one CD.

I don't get it.

What format is your source ? 1.85 ? 2.35 ?
This can explain why you have to decrease CQ value

--
apoc

gonzopdx · #27 01-02-2003, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Double check that you are using the KVCD matrix ( Or BETA-1 matrix ) and the GOP 1-12-2-1-24.
AviSynth 2.07.
TMPGEnc 2.59.
Latest versions of SansGrip's filters.
DVD2AVI 1.76.

Check (tried BETA-1 & Original)
Check.
Check (2.59 Plus)
Check.
Double check.

See? It's a mystery

I don't get it

Quote:

Originally Posted by apoc

What format is your source ? 1.85 ? 2.35 ?

1.85..

SansGrip · #28 01-02-2003, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

I have a 97 minute movie I'm trying to encode @ 528x480.. very low action (Jay & Silent Bob).. CQ of 50 is too much to fit on one CD.

That is weird. I just put a 16:9 95m movie on one disc with x3 and the CQ was 69.9. Post the exact script you're using and I'll take a look.

gonzopdx · #29 01-02-2003, 12:31 PM

Here it is.. exact script I used:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\fluxsmooth.dll")
# LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\Video\Plugs\decomb.dll")

mpeg2source("C:\Temp\jsb\vobs\jsb.d2v")

Trim(0,175500)

Telecide()
Decimate(cycle=5)

# LanczosResize(480,274,2,57,716,364)

BicubicResize(512,270,0,0.6,6,58,708,364)

# LegalClip()

FluxSmooth()

# BlockBuster(method="dither",variance=.7)

LegalClip()

AddBorders(8,105,8,105)

SansGrip · #30 01-02-2003, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

Here it is.. exact script I used

Well that script looks fine. I'm not sure why you'd have to use such a low CQ level to do a ~90m movie with that script, unless you've set something wrong in TMPGEnc.

Though I do recall some people experiencing problems with large file sizes using TMPGEnc 2.59...

gonzopdx · #31 01-03-2003, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SansGrip

Though I do recall some people experiencing problems with large file sizes using TMPGEnc 2.59...

Which would you recommend? 2.58? 2.57? Regular/Plus? Which are you using?

SansGrip · #32 01-03-2003, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzopdx

Which would you recommend? 2.58? 2.57? Regular/Plus? Which are you using?

I use 2.58 -- the free version -- and have never had any problems with it.

gonzopdx · #33 01-04-2003, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SansGrip

I use 2.58 -- the free version -- and have never had any problems with it.

I had a copy of 2.58.44.152 Plus on my HD.. I installed it, did a sample clip, same source, same script...same results. CQ 50 is too big to fit on a CD.

SansGrip · #34 01-04-2003, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzopdx

I had a copy of 2.58.44.152 Plus on my HD.. I installed it, did a sample clip, same source, same script...same results. CQ 50 is too big to fit on a CD.

Of course the CQ value will depend on the source. I just used CQ 38.9 to get a movie on one disc, but it was 2h20m long. Something still sounds wrong to me. Can you post complete (exhaustive, boring even

) details?

Also, find the CQ value that'll give you one disc then post a clip. If you need web space, PM me and I'll give you somewhere to upload it.