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andybno1 01-02-2003 07:51 AM

KVCDx3 guide? will there be a KVCD lbr guide?
 
Kwag,

will there be a KVCD lbr guide appearing anytime soon on your site on how to fit 180mins on a 80min cd?

SansGrip 01-02-2003 07:54 AM

Re: KVCDx3 guide?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
will there be a KVCDx3 guide appearing anytime soon on your site on how to fit 180mins on a 80min cd?

Once we've pinned down the optimal settings wrt the quantize matrix, etc. we're going to write up some docs, FAQs and HOWTOs with all the new techniques.

I'm hoping this should start in the next few days :).

andybno1 01-02-2003 11:54 AM

cool, what would the quality of the lbr be on a 20" 4:3 tv?

kwag 01-02-2003 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
cool, what would the quality of the lbr be on a 20" 4:3 tv?

If the movie is wide screen, and using the new GOP, BETA-1 matrix and prediction, a 180 minute movie should look very close to a VCD 8)
Here's a piece of K-19 ( 138 minute movie on one CD-R :wink: ) encoded at 352x240 with the LBR and this script:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("K:\K19\VIDEO_TS\k19.d2v")
LegalClip()
BilinearResize(336,176,16,0,688,480)
FluxSmooth()
Blockbuster(method="dither", variance=.7, seed=1)
AddBorders(8,32,8,32)
LegalClip()

#Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

http://www.kvcd.net/k-19-new.m1v :wink:

-kwag

andybno1 01-02-2003 02:01 PM

going to download that clip now, I'll give feedback later as I am doing numerous test burns of things.

andybno1 01-02-2003 05:21 PM

just burned and played the m1v file and very good for a lbr template.

if I process a 147min PAL film through dvd2avi then through tempgenc with no filters can I get 147mins onto a 80min cd? or do I need to use fitcd + filters?

kwag 01-02-2003 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

if I process a 147min PAL film through dvd2avi then through tempgenc with no filters can I get 147mins onto a 80min cd? or do I need to use fitcd + filters?

I suggest you use FitCD. That will get your resizing correct, and you should also add 1 "blocks overscan". You should also use FluxSmooth and LegalClip filters. If the movie is wide screen, you should be able to get up to ~180 minutes on one CD. The lower the action on the movie, the higher will be the quality.

-kwag

andybno1 01-03-2003 08:39 AM

might give that a try

andybno1 01-03-2003 02:34 PM

do I select xvcd? and if I choose anamorphic will that effect anything? cause the movie is anamorphic.

andybno1 01-03-2003 03:58 PM

I'm trying to add permanent subs to the video as near the end of part one of LOTR special edition there is subs for the elvish talking, I am trying to use avisynth.dll that comes with DVD2SVCD and I keep geting a error in tmpgenc saying its not a avisynth 1.0 plugin, any help with that?

ok, sorted the avisynth problem now I'm getting a unrecognized exception on line 7

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("C:\DVD2SVCD\Source\lotr.d2v")
LegalClip()
BicubicResize(688,544,0,0.6,0,3,720,570)
FluxSmooth()
AddBorders(8,16,8,16)
LegalClip()
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD2SVCD\Subs\","permsubs.txt")

Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##


kwag 01-03-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1

ok, sorted the avisynth problem now I'm getting a unrecognized exception on line 7


Is your DVD2AVI Version 1.76 :?: :?: It MUST be 1.76.

-kwag

andybno1 01-03-2003 05:31 PM

ah, well there is my problem, the d2v is from 1.77, can't someone make fitcd work with 1.77 d2v files?

andybno1 01-03-2003 06:21 PM

okie dokie got the avs to work in tmpgenc, now my dvd player says lotr extended version is 1hr 41mins 18secs, with the script as is would that fit the movie onto one 80min cd?

SansGrip 01-03-2003 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
okie dokie got the avs to work in tmpgenc, now my dvd player says lotr extended version is 1hr 41mins 18secs, with the script as is would that fit the movie onto one 80min cd?

Perhaps someone slipped something into my drink when I last watched it, but I'm sure the first, non-extended DVD is considerably longer than that :).

andybno1 01-03-2003 06:39 PM

the 1hr41mins is disc 1 don't forget the extended version is spanned over 2 dvds

SansGrip 01-03-2003 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
the 1hr41mins is disc 1 don't forget the extended version is spanned over 2 dvds

Ahhh, now that makes more sense ;). Yes, I think that should go nicely onto one disc at 528x480 with audio either 112 or 128kbps.

andybno1 01-03-2003 06:50 PM

if I used the lbr template I could fit the whole movie onto one cd?

kwag 01-03-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybno1
if I used the lbr template I could fit the whole movie onto one cd?

If it's wide screen, yes I believe so. I know rendalunit put "Pearl Harbor" on one CD with the LBR, and I put "The Green Mile" also on one CD-R. So LOTR should be able go in one too with pretty good quality :D
But remember, don't expect quality above VCD. That's the best you'll get :wink:

-kwag

andybno1 01-03-2003 06:59 PM

of cause, I wouldn't expect svcd quality, as the template is called Low Bitrate so I expect upto vcd quality.

of cause for now it would have to be two cds as I don't have the hd space to fit all the files required for the vobs of two dvds


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