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01-02-2003, 07:51 AM
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Kwag,

will there be a KVCD lbr guide appearing anytime soon on your site on how to fit 180mins on a 80min cd?
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will there be a KVCDx3 guide appearing anytime soon on your site on how to fit 180mins on a 80min cd?
Once we've pinned down the optimal settings wrt the quantize matrix, etc. we're going to write up some docs, FAQs and HOWTOs with all the new techniques.

I'm hoping this should start in the next few days .
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01-02-2003, 11:54 AM
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cool, what would the quality of the lbr be on a 20" 4:3 tv?
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cool, what would the quality of the lbr be on a 20" 4:3 tv?
If the movie is wide screen, and using the new GOP, BETA-1 matrix and prediction, a 180 minute movie should look very close to a VCD
Here's a piece of K-19 ( 138 minute movie on one CD-R ) encoded at 352x240 with the LBR and this script:

Code:
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("K:\K19\VIDEO_TS\k19.d2v")
LegalClip()
BilinearResize(336,176,16,0,688,480)
FluxSmooth()
Blockbuster(method="dither", variance=.7, seed=1)
AddBorders(8,32,8,32)
LegalClip()

#Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##
http://www.kvcd.net/k-19-new.m1v

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01-02-2003, 02:01 PM
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going to download that clip now, I'll give feedback later as I am doing numerous test burns of things.
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just burned and played the m1v file and very good for a lbr template.

if I process a 147min PAL film through dvd2avi then through tempgenc with no filters can I get 147mins onto a 80min cd? or do I need to use fitcd + filters?
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if I process a 147min PAL film through dvd2avi then through tempgenc with no filters can I get 147mins onto a 80min cd? or do I need to use fitcd + filters?
I suggest you use FitCD. That will get your resizing correct, and you should also add 1 "blocks overscan". You should also use FluxSmooth and LegalClip filters. If the movie is wide screen, you should be able to get up to ~180 minutes on one CD. The lower the action on the movie, the higher will be the quality.

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01-03-2003, 08:39 AM
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might give that a try
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do I select xvcd? and if I choose anamorphic will that effect anything? cause the movie is anamorphic.
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I'm trying to add permanent subs to the video as near the end of part one of LOTR special edition there is subs for the elvish talking, I am trying to use avisynth.dll that comes with DVD2SVCD and I keep geting a error in tmpgenc saying its not a avisynth 1.0 plugin, any help with that?

ok, sorted the avisynth problem now I'm getting a unrecognized exception on line 7

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LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("C:\DVD2SVCD\Source\lotr.d2v")
LegalClip()
BicubicResize(688,544,0,0.6,0,3,720,570)
FluxSmooth()
AddBorders(8,16,8,16)
LegalClip()
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD2SVCD\Subs\","permsubs.txt")

Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##
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01-03-2003, 05:27 PM
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ok, sorted the avisynth problem now I'm getting a unrecognized exception on line 7

Is your DVD2AVI Version 1.76 It MUST be 1.76.

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ah, well there is my problem, the d2v is from 1.77, can't someone make fitcd work with 1.77 d2v files?
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okie dokie got the avs to work in tmpgenc, now my dvd player says lotr extended version is 1hr 41mins 18secs, with the script as is would that fit the movie onto one 80min cd?
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okie dokie got the avs to work in tmpgenc, now my dvd player says lotr extended version is 1hr 41mins 18secs, with the script as is would that fit the movie onto one 80min cd?
Perhaps someone slipped something into my drink when I last watched it, but I'm sure the first, non-extended DVD is considerably longer than that .
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01-03-2003, 06:39 PM
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the 1hr41mins is disc 1 don't forget the extended version is spanned over 2 dvds
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the 1hr41mins is disc 1 don't forget the extended version is spanned over 2 dvds
Ahhh, now that makes more sense . Yes, I think that should go nicely onto one disc at 528x480 with audio either 112 or 128kbps.
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if I used the lbr template I could fit the whole movie onto one cd?
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if I used the lbr template I could fit the whole movie onto one cd?
If it's wide screen, yes I believe so. I know rendalunit put "Pearl Harbor" on one CD with the LBR, and I put "The Green Mile" also on one CD-R. So LOTR should be able go in one too with pretty good quality
But remember, don't expect quality above VCD. That's the best you'll get

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of cause, I wouldn't expect svcd quality, as the template is called Low Bitrate so I expect upto vcd quality.

of cause for now it would have to be two cds as I don't have the hd space to fit all the files required for the vobs of two dvds
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