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01-06-2003, 02:54 PM
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Hi all...

I encoded Lord Of The Rings, the new version, and I have no clue how to get those subtitles to work...
I'm talking about those that only appear when they speak that Tolkien-Language (don't know the English word for it... ) , and not subtitles during the whole movie...

any ideas?
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if you have dvd2svcd get that to rip the subs, then create a avs script with the following in it;

Code:
edit: in dvd2svcd its the bottom subtitle you want, even though its blank when dvd2svcd brings up the subtitles program you deselect the top one and select the bottom blank one then click show next, it will then scan through the whole movie until near the end of disc 1 where the subs appear in the movie. I also had permanent subs selected in dvd2svcd.


LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("C:\DVD2SVCD\Source\lotr.d2v")
LegalClip()
BicubicResize(688,544,0,0.6,0,3,720,570)
FluxSmooth()
AddBorders(8,16,8,16)
LegalClip()
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD2SVCD\Subs\","permsubs.tx t")

Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD2SVCD\Subs\","permsubs.tx t")<-- you change the directory to where the subs txt file is.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll")

I had a script which looked like this;

LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth Subtitler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\FitCD\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("C:\DVD2SVCD\Source\lotr.d2v")
LegalClip()
BicubicResize(688,544,0,0.6,0,3,720,570)
FluxSmooth()
AddBorders(8,16,8,16)
LegalClip()
AvisynthSubtitler("C:\DVD2SVCD\Subs\","permsubs.tx t")

Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

when the avs script is created, run the avs script through tmpgenc and encode with subs.

that worked fine for me, hope that helps.
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01-08-2003, 04:00 PM
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Hi...

I'm sorry, I don't know how to use DVD2SVCD...
can I add those subtitles to the stream using WinSubMux and SubRipper??
The output would be DVD too...
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01-08-2003, 05:23 PM
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what you do is, load dvd2svcd --> click on the cd icon, then select subtitles tab, tick rip subtitles then tick permanent then click misc --> default output folder --> select deafult output folder, under the same tab set the folder structure for the directory so u have order with the files, click go then rip and convert.

DVD2SVCD will then scan for the subtitle streams, and when its found them all it will bring up a programfor you to select which subtitle you want as permanent subtitles, the top one should have a 1 in its row click this 1 and select deselect then go to the bottom BLANK one and click in the same box as u did with the deselect but for that row of the bottom one and select 1, click show next and for disc 1 it will scan through the majority of the film (bit of a wait at this point) till it gets to near the end of disc 1 and then what was blank becomes occupied with a subtitle,

my suggestion here is click on the ... button in the first box to the left of the box with the subtitle in and change the palette from Black, White, Grey Blue to Black, White, Grey, Black. then click ok it will extract the subtitles then it will begin to rip the dvd files, at this point you could choose too stop dvd2svcd by clicking on the X in the top right corner then select yes (dvd2svcd may wait till its ripped the vob its ripping till it give you the option to properly quit and rip the files yourself, or let dvd2svcd rip the files and then quit dvd2svcd. anyway, run the vobs through dvd2avi (make sure its version 1.76), create a txt file and paste the code from the one above that I posted, take out things that you don't have like the fluxsmooth, legalclip and sampler (if you don;t have them that is) if you have them just change the dir location in the clip to where they are, run the avs script through tmpgenc. Then mux the sound and video together through BBMpeg and done.

hope you can make sense of that.
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01-09-2003, 07:16 AM
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Sorry man, I really appreciate your help a lot but that one won't work for me...
In my version (PAL) there is no blank subtitle somehow... every subtitle I tried with your method, were there from the beginning...

I don't really know what to do now... Do you have any other suggestions?

Edit: this makes me really mad... actually this is the only movie I know of where I could really need those subtitles... I'm wondering if there's some other way, of getting those subtitles... (avisynth script, adding them manually somehow...) does anybody know of something like that?
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my version is also PAL..

right, make sure you have the subtitles section set to this, under the conversion tab click go --> rip and convert dvd2svcd will then try and find all subtitle streams.

when dvd2svcd find the subs the subtitle program should popup, select the bottom subtitle stream do as I said before click the arrow next to the one in the top subtitle stream and select deselect, then in the bottom one, click the arrow and select 1 and click show next, it will now scan through the vobs till it finds that subtitle stream (bit of a wait during this bit) and it will eventually pop the subtitles program up again and it should look like this, then go 4 boxes to the right of the box with the 1 in, and change the palette colour blue to black (it looks much better than having the blue outline) then click ok and the subtitles for that stream will then be ripped followed by the vob files.

hope that helps you more.
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01-09-2003, 02:02 PM
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wow, I really appreciate your patience and help!

Alright I followed your guide again, this time it worked better... but... first of all on my DVD the order of the subtitles are totally different from your screenshot... there are a lot more (different languages and so on...)
now I did see the blank subtitle, and marked it...

It was like in your screenshot after I pressed Show Next... It said "I am Arwen..." but actually I wanted those subs in german (see location), just as they appear when viewed from DVD...
Sorry for being stupid or something...

I also tried switching the Subtitle Lang. to german... nah I don't know man... thanks a lot though!
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01-09-2003, 02:37 PM
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well unfortunately, thats all I know subtitles wise, try changing the language in the subtitles tab to german where in the screenshot it has english in the subtitles tab.
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Wait... I found it... :yippie:

Alright... now as I understood you right, DVD2SVCD will extract the subtitles to a TXT file, which can be picked up with AvisynthSubtitler.dll ...
I'll try it out and tell you the results tomorrow!!

Edit: Actually I've been to Liverpool last year... I really like that Brown Ale... Is that what you guys call your beer?
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Alright now I'm positive that I found the correct Subtitle pattern...

I don't see a TXT file though... I pressed Rip, and D2S just creates a subtitles.ini file in the directory I set as Temporary Folder...
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Ok I worked everything out and TMPGEnc is currently encoding...

so the subtitles will be a part of the mpeg file then right?
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the txt file should be in the same folder as the subtitle bmp files
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I really like that Brown Ale... Is that what you guys call your beer?
That's just one brand -- Newcastle Brown Ale .
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That's just one brand -- Newcastle Brown Ale
Not strictly true Sansgrip = Brown Ale is a type of beer (not so popular nowadays) - there are other Brown Ales - for example Manns Brown Ale

At last a subject to which I feel qualified to contribute! - Can I offer my services as KVCD European Beer Consultant!
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Not strictly true Sansgrip = Brown Ale is a type of beer (not so popular nowadays) - there are other Brown Ales - for example Manns Brown Ale
True enough, but not very many of them, at least not in England. A shame, really. What threw me off was the capitals -- "Brown Ale" instead of "brown ale" -- and I just picked the one he'd most likely had when he was in Liverpool .
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Originally Posted by Mario
Can I offer my services as KVCD European Beer Consultant!
Yeah alright, If that gap will be filled, I think someone should do that job who lives in the country where this delicious drink was invented !

I'm just kidding man... I could be the "Pilsner Advisor" for the KVCD European Beer Cosultant...
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