KVCD: Divx to 1 CD?

MrCoopz · #1 01-12-2003, 08:16 PM

Hello my first post and some stupid questions for u

I have searched and read the guides but i have only seen how to make DVD's into Vcd's using ur templates.

As i was searching i have seen that people make good quality Vcd's from Divx's but they dont say how they make them!!

I have about 30 divx films on my PC and want to try and keep the quality and put them onto a CD.

Can anyone tell me how??

Thanks

jorel · #2 01-12-2003, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCoopz

Hello my first post and some stupid questions for u

I have searched and read the guides but i have only seen how to make DVD's into Vcd's using ur templates.

As i was searching i have seen that people make good quality Vcd's from Divx's but they dont say how they make them!!

I have about 30 divx films on my PC and want to try and keep the quality and put them onto a CD.

Can anyone tell me how??

Thanks

complicated.......read this:
http://www.cdrbase.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=161

than,
easy way........ learn the tutorial ,
than use the kvcd templates of your choice!

fantastic result!

SansGrip · #3 01-12-2003, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCoopz

As i was searching i have seen that people make good quality Vcd's from Divx's but they dont say how they make them!!

Follow the instructions for making VCDs from DVDs, but instead of using Mpeg2Source you'll be using AviSource. That's one of the few differences I can think of right now

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MrCoopz · #4 01-13-2003, 08:30 AM

Ok i tried using this guide http://www.kvcd.net/guides/kguide/kv..._Step_4._Using

is this the right one?

and if it is can someone tell me which steps i need to do?

Hopefully i will suss this soon

also how do i use File prediction with Divx?

kwag · #5 01-13-2003, 09:40 AM

Hi MrCoopz,

Once you open your DivX file, all procedures are the same as if you had opened a .d2v or .avs file.
So everything on the guides applies.

File prediction should work too. That should also be material independent.

-kwag

MrCoopz · #6 01-13-2003, 01:29 PM

i tried and used the guide but my final mpegs are about 1200meg for a 1hr 30min film

I need a guide for Divx that tells me EXACTLY what to do because im lost with the current guides.

kwag · #7 01-13-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCoopz

i tried and used the guide but my final mpegs are about 1200meg for a 1hr 30min film

I need a guide for Divx that tells me EXACTLY what to do because im lost with the current guides.

Did you apply the file prediction method? http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2102

-kwag

MrCoopz · #8 01-13-2003, 02:57 PM

well i am struggling with fitcd, i used the guide but my script just came out like this, which i know is totally wrong

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2DEC2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\sampler.dll")

AviSource("D:\FILMS\Changing Lanes (DivX).avi")
BilinearResize(672,254,7,0,562,240)
AddBorders(16,113,16,113)

Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

i also followed the link u gave and did this

141969/98/24 = 60.36

707/60.36 = 11.71

but i cant make my Script so i cant go any further, oh and another question how do i know what templates to use?

kwag · #9 01-13-2003, 03:17 PM

Here's a script that you can use as guideline:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\fluxsmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll")

Mpeg2Source("K:\COUNT_OF_MONTE_CRISTO\VIDEO_TS\count.d2v")
LegalClip()
GripFit( width=528, height=480, overscan=2) 
FluxSmooth()
Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.3, seed=1)
LegalClip()

Sampler(length=24)
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

You only have to change the line: Mpeg2Source("K:\COUNT_OF_MONTE_CRISTO\VIDEO_TS\count.d2v") to AviSource("D:\FILMS\Changing Lanes (DivX).avi")

You don't need the resize line or the addborders you have on your script if you use GripFit

In this case, I want 528x480 (KVCDx3) as output. So there is where you define the resolution you want.

-kwag

SansGrip · #10 01-13-2003, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

You don't need the resize line or the addborders you have on your script if you use GripFit

You also need to use the "center" arrange method in TMPGEnc

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steharg · #11 01-13-2003, 04:40 PM

i was also going to suggest a guide also for people like myself (i know there are plenty of me's around!! lol), just getting into encoding and dont know how to use the prediction etc properly.
despite reading everything on this site and all the guides it seems that there isnt a complete BASIC 'how to' which encompasses all the steps you need to use to encode your movie.
I took the steps of using acp as it is automated, but i would like to use the templates as from everyone's opinon on here they are great quality unfortunately i havent been able to pick up the encoding with fitcd/file prediction, avs script, tmpeg - i suppose its like everything though...you do it once then its easy as pie next time.

i also have lots of divx movies and would like to put them onto cd's (preferably 1!) but i cant seem pick up where to start using the templates.

a newbie type guide with a step by step instructions would be fantastic with methods for encoding from a dvd and encoding from a avi/mpeg, it would go down great and also bring more people using the templates which can only be good.

MrCoopz · #12 01-13-2003, 05:41 PM

I also would love a Divx to 1 Vcd using the KVCD templates guide.

well i used the above Script and i put it in tmpgenc and got about 5secs worth of mpg!

I am once again totally lost.

i think i need to start fresh, i need to know all the tools to get and then step by step instructions. I would consider giving up but seeing as these templates look so good i think ill try again or maybe wait for a tutorial

Daagar · #13 01-13-2003, 05:44 PM

One note about DivX conversions: I'm still tinkering with CQ vs. CQ_VBR. I realize CQ is the preferred method now for most of the KVCD templates, but when the source is a DivX, it appears that CQ_VBR might still win out:

CQ reduces Gibbs, at the expense of DCT blocks.
CQ_VBR reduces DCT blocks, at the expensive of Gibbs.

DivX files tend to suffer already from higher amounts of DCT block (or at least I assume they are DCT blocks). So, in this case CQ_VBR in conjunction with FluxSmooth() seems to help reduce the blocks. CQ, while it looks decent, still seems a bit blockier because the source is already so heavily filled with blocks.

I'd be very interested in anyone else's results.

MrCoopz · #14 01-13-2003, 06:11 PM

are all AVI Movie files that are around 700-900meg divx's??

i have loads of movies but dont know which are divx

KingTuk · #15 01-13-2003, 06:54 PM

When putting DivX files I use this in my script

DirectShowSource("D:\Movie.avi", fps=23.976)

I also have FFDSHOW installed for my DivX decoder

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow

you may want to also add this line since the most of the time the audio is in a VBR format...

EnsureVBRMP3Sync()

GFR · #16 01-14-2003, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daagar

One note about DivX conversions: I'm still tinkering with CQ vs. CQ_VBR. I realize CQ is the preferred method now for most of the KVCD templates, but when the source is a DivX, it appears that CQ_VBR might still win out:

CQ reduces Gibbs, at the expense of DCT blocks.
CQ_VBR reduces DCT blocks, at the expensive of Gibbs.

DivX files tend to suffer already from higher amounts of DCT block (or at least I assume they are DCT blocks). So, in this case CQ_VBR in conjunction with FluxSmooth() seems to help reduce the blocks. CQ, while it looks decent, still seems a bit blockier because the source is already so heavily filled with blocks.

I'd be very interested in anyone else's results.

Also since the DivX has already limited high frequency, it is less prone to Gibbs than a full bandwith DVD rip ;

Boulder · #17 01-14-2003, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingTuk

When putting DivX files I use this in my script

DirectShowSource("D:\Movie.avi", fps=23.976)

I also have FFDSHOW installed for my DivX decoder

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow

you may want to also add this line since the most of the time the audio is in a VBR format...

EnsureVBRMP3Sync()

Avoid DirectShowSource as long as you can. You'll run into problems very easily. If you want deblocking, configure the decoder that came with the codec itself.

KingTuk · #18 01-14-2003, 05:09 PM

Actually I've never had a problem with DirectShowSource using it for DivX or XviD. FFDSHOW decodes better than the original decoders since it doesn't error out as easily. Now if you start turning on all the extra options you will run into trouble since new experimental options are added all the time... Just use it with the Postprocessing options and you will be fine...

Boulder · #19 01-15-2003, 04:42 AM

I'm not talking about ffdshow, it's a damn fine program IMHO. The problem with DirectShowSource is that the seeking is broken and this might cause a lot of issues. Even one of the Avisynth developers has had problems getting it to work properly.

I'm not saying you shouldn't use it if it works for you. There's just a lot of Avisynth newbies around here who read these posts and I thought I should give a little warning