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01-13-2003, 11:13 AM
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@Hi All,

I'm testing downloads for some Guides I will be posting.
My first will be Converting Divx to KVCD. This is just a
test. If you try some links that don't work please
post me

Software:

Headac3he: http://www.doom9.org/soft21/audio/headac3he-0.23a.rar
VirtualDub: http://www.doom9.org/soft21/editing/...Dub-1_4_13.zip
bbMPEG: http://www.doom9.org/soft21/mpeg2/bbmpg12418.zip
Tmpgenc: http://www.Tmpgenc.net/e_download.html (version 2.58 )
VCDEasy: http://www.VCDEasy.com/VCDEasy.zip
KVCD Templates: http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html
Avisynthhttp://www.doom9.org/soft21/supportutils/avisynth_207.exe (version 2.07)
SansGrip Filters: http://www.jungleweb.net/~sansgrip/avisynth/. (get the latest LegalClip,
Blockbuster, GripFit, FluxSmooth, etc.)


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While Doom9's great because it has almost everything, I think it's not OK to direct link to files hosted there. It has "anti-leech" software to prevent this, plus the most ethical way would be link to Doom9's home page and people then search from there.

You can also link to each software's own home page:

http://members.cox.net/beyeler/bbmpeg.html (BBMPEG)
http://www.avisynth.org (AVISYNTH)
http://darkav.de.vu (HEADACH3)
http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net (VIRTUALDUB)
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01-13-2003, 11:51 AM
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Actually, I would rather see our own guides .
All of those guides are generic. For KVCD specifics, they can be simplified, and we can write smaller guides with just the necessary screenshots. Sort of what Red-M did with his excelent guide: http://www.kvcd.net/guides/kguide/kvcdguide.htm
I think his guide is the best KVCD guide so far , so maybe he will continue to update it with the new features, and that's all we need

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01-13-2003, 12:24 PM
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Black Prince links are for the softwares themselfs, not for guides
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01-13-2003, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
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Black Prince links are for the softwares themselfs, not for guides

Too early for my neurons to absorb information :tongue2:
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OK, it's 4:00pm here in Brasil
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OK, it's 4:00pm here in Brasil
I slept late
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01-13-2003, 02:31 PM
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@Kwag and All,

My motive was to try to get something going. I'll just stay out of this
issue. I have pretty good personal guides and don't really need them.
It's probably best to let Kwag make those decisions. Just trying to
be helpful.


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01-13-2003, 02:34 PM
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@Kwag and All,

I'll just stay out of this
issue.
No way . Every feedback counts . The more, the better

-kwag
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Black prince will u still be doing a DIVX to KVCD guide??

im in need of one
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01-13-2003, 06:33 PM
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@MrCoopz,

MrCoopz wrote:
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Black prince will u still be doing a DIVX to KVCD guide??
im in need of one
Send me a PM and I'll walk you throught the steps, so you can
build your own guide

-black prince
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01-13-2003, 06:40 PM
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i would also like a guide too black prince - go on ill even buy you a virtual pint if you make one! lol

thanks in advance (fingers crossed)
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01-13-2003, 06:48 PM
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@All,

Give me a few days and I'll post my guide converting Divx to KVCD.
I'll give you links for screen shots with tips and suggestions. Thanks for
your interest

-black prince
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nice one black prince

*buys you a pint*

thanks
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01-13-2003, 09:58 PM
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@All,

Here's my first draft. Corrections and additions will be coming.
Let me know where improvements could be used.

Converting Divx (avi) to KVCD


Introduction:

Like so many visitors to KVCD, I too originally visited to convert Divx’s to a format
that would play on my TV and keep the same picture quality as Divx. Months
later, I found myself using the KVCD process for all my video backups. My
family and I are impressed with the picture quality. I know anyone who takes
the time to learn the KVCD process will also be very impressed.

Software:

Tmpgenc: http://www.Tmpgenc.net/e_download.html (get version 2.58 )
VCDEasy: http://www.VCDEasy.com/VCDEasy.zip
Headac3he: http://darkav.de.vu
VirtualDub: http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net
AviSynth: http://www.avisynth.org (get version 2.07)
BBMPEG: http//members.cox.net/beyeler/bbmpeg.html
KVCD Templates: http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html
SansGrip Filters: http://www.jungleweb.net/~sansgrip/avisynth/
(get the latest LegalClip, Blockbuster, GripFit, FluxSmooth, etc.)



Getting Started:

Before we start it’s important to determine if KVCD encoded mpeg-1
movies will play on your DVD player. Start by checking
http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html for your DVD player. Even if
it’s not listed there’s still a chance it can play KVCD movies. Try making
a small test clip using this process (say 30 seconds) burn this to CD-RW
and play this as a test. If it still fails, post the problem on the forum for
help from others who may have solved your problem.

Next make sure the proper codec’s have been installed and Divx is working by
playing your video. If your Divx is not high quality, then don’t expect a
better VCD. Don’t expect miracles. Going from a smaller resolution to
a higher one (e.g. 320x240 to 704x480) will not give you a good picture.
Try to go for a resolution equal or less. (e.g. 640x480 to 528x480 kvcdx3).
Use file size predictor (described later) to judge how many CD’s it will take
to convert. As an example, If you want only 1 CD try KVCD
Template 352x240 KVCD-LBR, or if 2 CD’s try 528x480 kvcdx3.
Finally, take your time and when asking for help, please explain what you
have done and your problem with details when you post. Your problem can be
solved faster that way.

Step 1 (Audio):

Use VirtualDub:

Go to File>open>(select your avi file)
You will get a message “VBR audio stream detected” Just click on “OK” button
Go to File>File Information (check Video Stream and write down resolution).
Write down the total number of frames and the time in minutes.
Go to Audio>Full Compression (check this)
Go to File>Save as WAV (save file with wav extension)
When done close VirtualDub.

Use Headac3he:

Select Source File> (locate your audio.wav file from VirtualDub)
Select Destination Format> choose type as .mp2
Click Options twice
Select Channel mode> (dual channel)
Select Bitrate> (choose the quality you want. I start with 128kb, but you can
Increase this if there is room left after creating the video part)
Click Start
When finished close Headac3he ( you are now ready for the video)



Step 2 (video)

I’ll use the easier method to create the video avs script, but it would benefit you
to investigate how to use FitCD for cropping and resizing after trying this.
You can create an avisynth script file by using notepad.com, cut and paste
the script below. Change the directories where your filters are located
and save the file with the extension .avs (e.g. movie.avs)
Here is a sample avs script for Divx:

LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\LegalClip\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Blockbuster\Blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\FluxSmooth\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\Sampler\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\DVD Backup\2 - DVD2SVCD\GripFit\GripFit_Preview.dll")
avisource("D:\Temp\Divx_movie.avi")
LegalClip()
GripFit( width=528, height=480, overscan=2)
Blockbuster(method=”noise”, variance=.4, seed=1)
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)


GripFit replaces Crop, BilinearResize, AddBorders filters and keeps correct
aspect ratio. (no egg head picture image) For more options check documentation
that came with GripFit or SansGrip forum. Blockbuster noise decreases blockiness
in dark areas for a better picture.

The only filters you might want to change is GripFit’s width and height to
the resolution being used in KVCD template. The sample above is for KVCDx3.
#Sampler(length=24) when uncommented is used for file prediction. This
will be used to predict whether your final file size will fit 1 or 2 CDs.

Use Tmpgenc:

Browse (input) button> (find your movie.avs file you created)
Load (button) > select the KVCD template that has the same resolution as movie.avs.
Settings > Video>Settings (video rate control)>Quality (use default to start)
P_picture_spoilage = 0, B_picture_spoilage=0
Click (OK button)

Settings>Video>Advanced>video arrange method> (select “Center”)
Settings>Video>GOP Structure> I=1, P=24, B=2, GOP=1, Max frames GOP=24.
All boxes are unchecked
Settings>Video>Quantize Matrix>(if not selected, select KVCD Notch Beta-1a)
Click (OK button)
Stream type>ES (video only) check this.
Go to FILE>Preview and play a few minutes of the movie. Check for aspect ratio,
screen size, etc. If all looks good, close preview.
Next we will use file prediction to calculate how many CDs our movie will need.


Fast way to finish-up:

At this point you could input the audio.wav file created to Tmpgenc and encode
The movie with audio and video. Use Tmpgenc tools to cut the final movie into
2 or more files and be happily on your way. For those who want to bale out
here, I’ll understand. Later, after a few encodes you might want to try the
rest of this guide to get the most from this process


File Prediction:

Edit your avs script (movie.avs) and remove "#" from #Sampler(length=24).
Save this and go back to Tmpgenc.
Open Tmpgenc. The settings from before should still be there.
Now start encoding. While encoding write the test frames (upper right corner).
When complete, go to the directory where your test video file is located and
right click on this file, select properties and write down the file size.

Now you should have written down the following:
Total Frames:
Length of movie (seconds):
Number of test frames:
Test file size:
Audio file size:

Use the following formula to predict the file size:
I would set this up in excel spreadsheet:

Target Video File Size = (( 1 CD – Audio) / Total Frames ) * Test Frames
e.g. ((813,019,155 – 106,603,776) / 152,775) * 2567 = 11,869,535
11,869,535 is you target video test file size for 1 CD.

New CQ = (Target Video File Size / Test Video File Size) * Last CQ
e.g. New CQ = (11,869,535 / 11,680,704) * 57 = 57.92

Corrected CQ = (Last CQ + New CQ) / 2
e.g. Corrected CQ = (57 + 57.92) = 57.49

In this example you would use as your next test for file prediction, 57.49
in Tmpgenc and run again. You keep calculating Corrected CQ until
your close to target file size. If your first test shows the file won’t fit
1 CD, you could pick a lower resolution by changing avs script and
the template in Tmpgenc. KVCDPredictor is available and will do
these calculations for you, but you may need microsoft’s .NET and
avisynth 2.5 alpha. Check with SansGrip on this.



Step 3 (Ready to encode video):

You’ve finished file tests and have the CQ to meet your CDs.
The next step is to comment (#Sampler(length=24) again to
deactivate it. Go to Tmpgenc>File>Save Project (save the settings file with .tpr
extension) this is a project file. Next go to File>batch encode>add>(select the
project you just created)>run. When the screen returns, notice a check box in
the upper right for automatic shut down of PC. Check this box and your PC will shut
down when Tmpgenc is finished. Now go to sleep or out for the evening and not worry
about you PC being on all day.


Step 4 (Multiplexing)

bbMPEG:
Now your ready to join your audio file with the video.

*** (more to be added)


-black prince
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01-13-2003, 10:21 PM
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That's good work Black Prince, very easy to follow.
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01-13-2003, 10:37 PM
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Nice work black prince

Make it a sticky. We'll move it to a proper section once we get a little more organized

-kwag
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01-13-2003, 11:50 PM
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@Kwag,

If you place it as a sticky, can I update the sticky to add more notes
from time to time

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01-14-2003, 12:01 AM
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Quote:
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@Kwag,

If you place it as a sticky, can I update the sticky to add more notes
from time to time

-black prince
Let's give it a try
Edit: You can make it sticky, because you created the message.
If you can't, then start a new topic and set it as sticky. Then delete the original post.

-kwag
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i need help again

Use VirtualDub:

i got to this

Go to Audio>Full Compression (check this)
Go to File>Save as WAV (save file with wav extension)
When done close VirtualDub.

and couldnt find the compression bit, so i just saved the wav anyway and it came out at 91 meg.

Then i went into Headac3he open the wav and it said

"Could not find data chunk"

what am i doin wrong??
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