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01-19-2003, 02:01 PM
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When I observe encoding in Tmpgenc, the picture seems flawless. When I observe the finished product in WMP 7, it looks noisy. When I observe same finished product in WinDVD, the noise is cleaned up (but not all of it). Can anybody explain this weirdness!? What can I expect when this sucker gets on the TV? Better? Worse?

I'm currently using legalclip, faerydust, c3d, legalclip (in that order).
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What can I expect when this sucker gets on the TV? Better? Worse?
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I'm currently using legalclip, faerydust, c3d, legalclip (in that order).
Perfect

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01-19-2003, 03:42 PM
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Oh, Kwag....

You're killing me, man. This is becoming an obsession...

Hey, you and Sansgrip have been playing with these filters more than I have. Any recommended parameters (I'm using defaults)?
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Oh, Kwag....

You're killing me, man. This is becoming an obsession...

Hey, you and Sansgrip have been playing with these filters more than I have. Any recommended parameters (I'm using defaults)?
yes, i'm waiting for the recommended parameters too.

Sansgrip and/or Kwag.....waiting for you.
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yes, i'm waiting for the recommended parameters too.
FaeryDust()

And if you need extra compression:

Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ")

If you need lots of extra compression:

Convolution3D(preset="movieLQ")

Remember that C3D will cause significant smoothing, especially the latter version, so I only use it if I'm having trouble getting something to fit on however many discs.
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01-19-2003, 06:12 PM
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Here's a script I've been using lately for KVCDx3:

Code:
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\GripFit_preview.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\vobsub.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\convolution3d.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\dustv4.dll") 

Mpeg2source("k:\Red_Planet\VTS__01_P01_1.d2v")
vobsub("K:\Red_Planet\VTS_01_VSUB_P1")
LegalClip() 
GripCrop( width=528, height=480, overscan=2 ) 
GripSize() 
GripBorders() 
FaeryDust()
Convolution3D(preset="movieLQ") 
LegalClip() 
Sampler(length=24)
Just change your source file name to yours and the resoultion you want on the GripCrop line. In this example, I'm doing subtitles. That's what the vobsub line is for.

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yes, i'm waiting for the recommended parameters too.
FaeryDust()

And if you need extra compression:

Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ")

If you need lots of extra compression:

Convolution3D(preset="movieLQ")

Remember that C3D will cause significant smoothing, especially the latter version, so I only use it if I'm having trouble getting something to fit on however many discs.
just like ever:

better answer that we needed.
lots of details....very good.

really thanks Sansgrip!!

editing:
i post in the same time with you Kwag,
you're fantastic too!

double....no...triple thanks!!!
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01-19-2003, 10:02 PM
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Hey guys, when I used Legal clip, it resized my output to 640x352!!
Is this normal??
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Hey guys, when I used Legal clip, it resized my output to 640x352!!
Is this normal??
LegalClip doesn't resize -- something else must be the culprit .
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01-20-2003, 04:34 AM
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Yeah, that would be me....

Gotta remember to load the frikkin template!!
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01-21-2003, 08:30 PM
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BTW, finished up 'The Ring,' burned it, and loaded it up.

It really didn't meet my expectations. Gnarly block noise, especially in gradients. Basically inferior to encodes I did 3 months ago with older templates, without filters... file size is nice, though

I've followed procedures to the letter. Do you think I've got a software problem? I have tempgenc 2.58, and Avisynth 2.07. My source is Divx. Could that be it? Divx sources confuse the filter, or I need a different GOP for those types of sources? Perhaps an additional .dll in Avisynth for Mpeg 4 sources?

Im going mad, I tell you!! MAD!!!
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01-21-2003, 08:33 PM
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My source is Divx. Could that be it?
Reencoding to a low bitrate format from a low bitrate format never produces great results (at least for me). The only time I got a really decent encode from an AVI was from a 2hr 3-disc XViD.
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01-23-2003, 02:44 PM
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jorel wrote:
yes, i'm waiting for the recommended parameters too.


FaeryDust()

And if you need extra compression:

Convolution3D(preset="movieHQ")

If you need lots of extra compression:

Convolution3D(preset="movieLQ")

Remember that C3D will cause significant smoothing, especially the latter version, so I only use it if I'm having trouble getting something to fit on however many discs.
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So would it make sence to use use Convolution3D for smoothing and
blockbuster sharpen afterwards???

regards, ***mfb***
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@ mfb,

you wrote:
"So would it make sence to use use Convolution3D for smoothing and
blockbuster sharpen afterwards???"

maybe....but you can loose some "extra compression".
try a sample and post the result here,it's a good idea!
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