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big 01-30-2003 08:17 PM

KVCD: colored dots in my movie?
 
that is my avs script

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\NimoCodec Pack\Mpeg2dec\Mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\LegalClip-0.2\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\Blockbuster-0.7\Blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\FluxSmooth-1.0\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\Sampler-0.2a\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\GripFit_preview_0.0c\GripFit_ Preview.dll")
avisource("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Films\Lilo.Et.Stitch.FRENCH.DVDRiP.DiVX-Ulysse.avi")
ConvertToYUY2()
LegalClip()
GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=2)
GripSize()
FluxSmooth()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)

movie is 576 x 336 in 23.976 fps...122667 frames...1:25:16 hours

used vdub to create a wav file...that was easy

headac3he was ok also...mp2, dual mode bitrate 64 to lower down file size

tmpgenc...used template kvcdx3 mpeg1 ntscfilm 528x480...all the other setting were as you specified in your guide except cq i put 80 since you told me higher than 70

i have made a regular vcd with the same movie and there were no dots...

once it is transformed i have a m1v file...and when i look at it there are some colored dots in the movie that comes and goes...so i guess the proble starts from here...

when i preview the file before encoding it plays ok (no dots) but when it has been encoded the dots are appearing...very strange...what did i do wrong...

if you need more info just let me know

thx for your help

kwag 01-30-2003 08:47 PM

Re: i stumped black prince...colored dots in my movie...help
 
Hi big,

Change your script to this:

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\NimoCodec Pack\Mpeg2dec\Mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\LegalClip-0.2\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\Blockbuster-0.7\Blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\FluxSmooth-1.0\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\Sampler-0.2a\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\GripFit_preview_0.0c\GripFit_Preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Programmes\GripFit_preview_0.0c\DustV5.dll")
avisource("C:\Documents and Settings\MichelD\Mes documents\Films\Lilo.Et.Stitch.FRENCH.DVDRiP.DiVX-Ulysse.avi")
ConvertToYUY2()
LegalClip()
GripCrop(528, 480, overscan=2)
SpaceDust()
FluxSmoth()
GripSize()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)

See that I added SpaceDust() before FluxSmooth, and I also put both filters after GripCrop and before GripSize().
You must download DustV5. Links here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2553

Let me know your results :wink: .

Edit: When you finish encoding your sample, please use WinDVD or PowerDVD for preview. Don't use WMP to judge quality 8)

-kwag

big 01-31-2003 07:37 AM

it seems ok...i looked at it with bsplayer and no dots...but there were some dots when i looked at it with real player 1...

other question...my mpg file is 850 mg...is there a way to lower it down so it could fit on one cd...i have tried the file prediction but i don't understand...possibly i am dumb...

would you have an answer for me?

kwag 01-31-2003 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big

other question...my mpg file is 850 mg...is there a way to lower it down so it could fit on one cd?

You can use TMPEG tools to cut off your end credits. That will probably bring the file down quite a bit.

-kwag

big 01-31-2003 11:43 AM

if we lower down the cq, will it bring down the size of the file?

kwag 01-31-2003 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big
if we lower down the cq, will it bring down the size of the file?

Yes it will. But you should really read the file prediction tutorial here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2102 as it will really optimize your quality and fill your disk.

-kwag

big 01-31-2003 09:55 PM

finally i am up to burning...need help again
 
here is what i did...

i encoded with tmpgenc at cq 70...just a question at this point...do we have to put the .wav file in tmpgenc or not...i did not put it...

once it was encoded i used bbmpeg to multiplex...but when i used headac3he i had to select a bitrate of 64...higher than that bbmpeg was not able to do the job...will that hurt the quality of my movie with a low bitrate...

finallt it worked and i have a 523 mg movie ready to burn...is that to low and will the quality be good?

i am using nero to burn...when i brought the file to burn nero gave me a message that it was a compliant file...i choose continue is that ok...

i supposed i burn like a regular vcd with nero...

thx

kwag 01-31-2003 10:01 PM

Hi big,

I'm afraid that 528MB for a 528x480 movie is going to look pretty bad :cry:
You see, your video stream should have been around 700MB, plus the audio stream which would total ~800MB. If your multiplexed audio/video is 528MB, you lost almost 300MB 8O, and that's a lot of quality lost.

-kwag

big 02-02-2003 09:50 PM

at work...again!!!
 
tried to figure out how to use file predictions ans i am really confused...i do not understand it...black prince says that it should take 3 to 6 minutes to encode the sample file size...with what do we encode??? i don't know what to use...when i encode i used tmpgenc and it takes 4 to 6 hours not minutes...without that i can not zero in for new cq value...

kwag 02-02-2003 10:10 PM

Look at the line #Sampler(length=24) at the bottom of your script. For it to work, you must remove the # in front of it. The # means everything than follows is a comment.
So edit your script with notepad and remove the # sign. Now your sample will run in 3 to 4 minutes,

-kwag

big 02-04-2003 07:28 AM

error message with tmpgenc
 
finally i understood how to use file prediction thanks to your help...i have found the correct cq but tmpgenc gives me that message...

illegal floating point decimal calculation order

what do we do to correct that...

thx

big

kwag 02-04-2003 11:20 AM

Re: error message with tmpgenc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big
...i have found the correct cq but tmpgenc gives me that message...

illegal floating point decimal calculation order

what do we do to correct that...

thx

big

Try encoding a DVD source instead of an avi. I think your source could have bad frames or strange resolution, which causes all sort of problems.

-kwag

big 02-04-2003 08:01 PM

i guess i am stuck
 
unfortunately i am not equiped for dvd...that is why i use avi files...i guess there is no solution for me...

1-i have loaded my movie in vdub and no bad frames...resolution is 576 x 336...could it be that

2-could i have problems if cq is too high?

3-would it worked if i change cq for cq vbr???

desperate

big :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

rhino 02-05-2003 03:25 AM

Try dropping the CQ by 1 point, or if you CQ is accurate to decimal places, ie 74.56 or even 74.5, round it down to a whole number and try this.

I have seen this problem before so this is what i have done in the past,

cheers,


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