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I followed all the directions on this forum to a tee, and i was very pleased to get a nice a 704x480 kvcd in excelent condition.

however when i put the disc in my dvd player (my dvd player has played other kvcds, vcds, and svcds) the video is CHOPPY! it lags, then jumps over and over again! I dont know what the problem is, this has never happened before.

I am thinking it may be a problem with my dvd player rendering the stream fast enough? maybe if i encode a lower rez it would play smoothly?
and the disc plays FINE on my computer.

Somone please help
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Hi flameboy,

It could be a media problem
Have you tried another CD-R brand

Edit: Also check that your audio was encoded at 44.1Khz and not at 48Khz.

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well my cdrs are TDK 700mb discs, the highest quality i am aware of, however the mp2 file IS 48000Hz
is this the problem? the guide didnt specify having to change that, or even how to change it

in DVD2AVI theres a 48 -> 44.1khz option and the values are Low, Mid, High, UltraHigh

which should i use in the future?
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well my cdrs are TDK 700mb discs, the highest quality i am aware of, however the mp2 file IS 48000Hz
is this the problem? the guide didnt specify having to change that, or even how to change it

in DVD2AVI theres a 48 -> 44.1khz option and the values are Low, Mid, High, UltraHigh

which should i use in the future?
Some players are picky and require the audio to be 44.1kHz, so yes, that could be your problem. It's also possible that your player simply doesn't like the 704x resolution and is causing the errors (have you tried 704x before?). But it's probably the audio.

While creating your .d2v project with dvd2avi, you should always "DEMUX" the the audio instead of "DECODING" it to a .wav file. This way, you have the original AC3 audio track to work from, and are doing one less audio conversion in the process, which will result in better quality (AC3->MP2, not AC3->WAV->MP2). Then you should convert that AC3 directly to a 44.1kHz .MP2 file with HeadAC3he (or BeSweet).

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aarrgggg
after another 12 hours of re-encoding at 44.1khz audio it STILL jumps every few seconds continuously throughout the movie

i guess its the high resolution.... going to have to try all over again at a lower one. does anyone have a recommendation about whats safe? i want as good of quality as possible...without SKIPPING!
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Flameboy, I don't think it's a problem with the CD-R media or the audio bitrate. I have an Apex 1100W (USA-NTSC) standalone DVD player and anytime I encode something at 720x480 or 704x480, it has to have been encoded at 29.97 fps in order for it to play properly, otherwise it skips like you described. My guess is you're probably encoding your video at 23.976 fps, but your DVD player is expecting 29.97 and chokes while it waits for more frames. Try encoding a short test clip (1-5 mins or so) at 29.97 fps (with whatever audio settings you want), and I'll bet it'll play back smoothly on your DVD player. That's what solved the problem for me.
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You can also try encoding MPEG-2 at 23.976fps with 3:2 pulldown.
You'll get better quality than encoding at 29.97, and it should play on the APEX players.

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OK! ive been in dis business for 10 years ... was 5 when i made high quality skvcd's with tmpgenc ... and even back den ma brain was strangely bigger dan da average noob in dis topic ... yet today i feel intimidated by jorel, maudibb, kwag, vmquiesta, and sansgrip's intelligences. now, shall we get onto my hard-earned experiences?

ok ppl DVD2AVI and all da methods described in black prince's guide are AMAZINGLY PRECISE and work fine ... but apparently dere are too many noobs in dis forum dat cant seem to work it out ... btw THANK U BLACK PRINCE ... im only da fourth person das said dat up till now ... no one else seems to care much bout ur hard-earned experience.

ok ... if u have p3 or p4, get ready for cce right now cuz im tellin ya tmpgenc (with avs) is great WITHOUT moviestacker and tok (again big thanx to all deir creators) ... but if u want speed and u can afford speed (in terms of ur RAM and CPU), den give cce sp 2.6 or 2.7 (with SSG crack) a shot ... u can easily create KDVDs amd SKVCDs ... but obviously VMQUIESTA's guide wasnt sufficient enuff on its avs part ... what he described only worked for him and his PERFECTLY RIPPED DVD avis ... and apparently u need YUY2 or YIV2 for his script ... sicne den, i have done reasearch and testing, and find moviestacker useful once again ... open MS and load da template of ur choice. den, change all da filter settings, aspect ratio, resolution, etc. to ur deepest desires and save da script .... great ... now load ALL DAT information (with ur eyes and hands ... sorry dere aint no program in da WORLD dat can do DIS PART for u .... dont cry tho itzzz quite eZZZ) into da latest optimal script that suites u best (u can find dem at www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483) ok! phew! now follow all of VMQuiesta's guide and d/l his KDVD calculator 1.1 (b/c in the guide, it asks u to do many many calculations on hand and with paper, and noobies JUST PLAIN SIMPLE DONT LIKE DAT ... besides da calc does everythin da guide asks u to do on 2 whole pages in less dan a second!) and templates for CCE 2.6 or 2.7 (according to what u have and ur preference) from http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/vmesquita.htm and ur all set to go!

now for dvd-ripping part! follow everything on dis page, and ull get VERY HIGH QUALITY video in less than 3 hours (and we're talkin a premium 2-pass rip dat u can ONLY get on gaurdianknot or maybe even autoGK) ... dvdx has automatic built-in decrypter (so u save an extra 2 steps of ripping and decrypting) and divx 4.12 is faster dan all da other divx codecs (but equal to xvid - almost same source code - trust me i checked - and it had same results and almost same encoding time, but only real advantage is dat u can set da final size rather dan predicting it wit nic's xvid calc like u would wit divx 4.12 - which usually still doesnt come out to da file size u want it - but it doesnt matter cuz ur gonna be encoding it to KVCD MPEG-1 or -2 anyways ... so just as long as ur source is high quality), so u can rip and decrypt and convert WITH 2-PASS in only 3.5 hours on P4 (wit HT) or 5-7 hours (on anythin else) ... ur mouth is waterin eh? XMPEG is da only other program dat can do dis direct conversion but its WAY TOOOO BUGGY ... and da features arent even one-sixth of dvdx's .... once u have ur avi, it could never be easier to make avs scripts ... for latest optimal script, simply change da mpeg source line to an avisource like dis:

AviSource("C:\Program Files\IamAnooob.avi")

and at da end, add a sampler line wit da GOP of ur encoder (if ur using cce, dat would be 15, and wit tmpgenc, it would be 24) .... so it should look somethin like dis for a cce user:

sampler (length=15)

das it ur done ... now keep encoding wit dat sample wit tmpgenc or cce and in cce, decrease it to increase size and quality or vice versa ... in tmpgenc, increase it to increase size and quality or vice versa .... and da file outcome should meet da size of ur sampler (which u got through manual calculation through VMQuiesta's guide or with his KDVD Calc 1.1) ... das it ... when u got da right rate ... delete da sampler line ... and hit encode for da whole movie .... btw cce will make da video in 4 hours and tmpgenc in 9 (and im using a p4 3.06 wit ht ... so good luck wit dat) .. and cce will have over 4.3 times better quality! yah ... i sorta went through lotsa trouble to calculate dat ... but JUST DA FACT DAT UR USING CCE means dat u wont have blockiness in ur final mpeg, and so u dont need blockbuster or SmoothHQi or any other similar filters to eliminate blocks or artifacts in ur video, or even da usual colour problems with OLLLLD DivX or XviD .... i hope uve enjoyed dis lil guide ... btw cce can do unlimited passes (i do 8 passes for some of my fav movies, but never wit da optimal script ... cuz da filters in dat script make a CCE encode take 4 hours long, which will give u almost da same quality as 4 passes) ....

ENJOY DIS HELPFUL LITTLE GUIDE .... and ooohhhh yes it is QUITE LITTLE .... u havent seen ma guides ... shoutouts go to kwag, maudibb, and sansgrip for dis site and all deir creations/contributions in da world of video on cd, and an EQUALLY BIG THANX to VMQUiesta for all his efforts of finding ANOTHER BETTER AND FASTER way to encode ur movies ... das all for tonite folks ... peace out ....
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btw, SmoothHQi is such an amazin filter! god i love it more dan convolution 3d .... but i aint horny just yet .... maybe some japanese twins ought to DAT trick ...

anyways .... guys i think u should SmoothHQi for old movies no matter HOW MANY OTHER filters u r using, but not if ur usin tmggenc .... its just too slow lol (and again im running a p4 3.06 wit HT, so unless, u got an amd 64-bit, dont even question ma recommendations)....

ok just thought u should know dat and use dat filter ... even though half of ya noobs dont even know what im talkin bout right now ... dat shouldnt matter tho .... i used to be a noob once too ....
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The slang (or whatever the hell it is) doesn't translate very well...
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Took me about three times longer to read, than the regular time to read a post

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Took me about three times longer to read, than the regular time to read a post
And I personnaly stop the reading after the third "da".
What is the goal there ? To be read or just to raise up the message counter ?
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Could someone expl. me what all this means?
(not da raggamuffin' stylin but the sense as its already in a very understandable state written by VMesquita according to CCE)

Btw ... I don't know why some people start their threads using the preventive words "I've been in this business for about xx years"



PS I hope you all enjoy a nice night and I wish you all the best for 2004!
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Guys, Guys!
Just wanted to wish you guys a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR

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Be a sports and help the community with fresh ideas instead of using LAME crack/warez methods for great tools
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An all these mentions of illegal "cracks" "xvid/Divix downloads" in here give KVCD in the outside a nice touch of purpose just to exist to build sharing stuff!!!

I thought we're doing "advanced video-conversion" in here and not "how I do get the best out of stolen things"
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I thought we're doing "advanced video-conversion" in here and not "how I do get the best out of stolen things"
Now, that's the spirit

EDIT: I always knew I was at right place at kvcd.net :P
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i have NEVER used cce up until last week, and ever since, ive done EVERYTHING on VMQueista's guide (yes i got all da plugins and templates and even played da script through WMP 9 wit no problems, and ran it through cce ... works fine and encodes JUST FINE) ... now here's ma problem! first of all, as i have read above, for downloaded movies, i always get an error message dat ma input file must be YUY2 or YV12 and im totally confused bout da YUY2 part but i get da YV12 part (yet i still cannot find da YV12 codec ... nic's xvid compilation doesnt have it nor does his source code ... maybe ill have to try gaurdianknot later but its just too much work for now) .... i have 2 d/led movies and 8 personally ripped movies dat just look and feel great (wit divx 4.12) ... so now, here's ma question ... when i encode it wit cce or even play da script wit WMP 9, da whole movie is turned into a bluish or reddish mpeg or mpv. god i hate to say it, but ive been stuck on dat part of da process ever since ... i have avisynth 5.2.3 just like u guys said and i really have gone by vmquiesta's rule book, but im seriously gonna break some rules and do some further personal research if u guys cant help me ... but i doubt i will get any far myself ...

i have my CQ value by da way ... its 21 ... i used da manual method explained in VMQuiesta's guide ... AGAIN, i can encode ... but da script is da problem! becuz when i play it in WMP. i see it blue or red again (u can play da avi straight through ur avs script, but it runs much much slower becuz of all da simultaneous filters loading and running). dont get me wrong .... its not red and blue for a single movie! so far, one movie is bluish, another is reddish, and even another dat i just did right now, yellowish. wow soon i might have all da colours in da rainbow!

so can u guys help me? im gettin really pissed off by dis bs ... btw, i get da same colour problem when usin da LATEST OPTIMAL script ... and last but not least, in a whole movie, only things that are white usually become blue or red or yellow or etc ... so just thought that might help ... but i did say usually! mostly colours close to white .... i would appreciate a quick reply ... but THANX ALOT in advance ...
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Maybe you're taking us all for fools but doing just a copy of your already posted Postings where we already gave the clear spoken ADVICE not to mention "Downloaded movies" etc ....

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....ghlight=#57116

... will give you no help, as you won't learn

If you enter HERE accept our rules! If not we're the ones who are getting "really pissed off"

So edit your posts.

If not I'll delete your Postings imideately!
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(*sigh*) Some peoples' kids.........

As Incredible said, DO NOT CROSS-POST!!! In case you do not know, "cross-posting" means to post the same exact message throughout different forums.

Cross-posting is totally unnecessary because most people here read all of the posts in every forum section anyways. So if someone has the ability or desire to help you, then they will help you...just be patient! Cross-posting is also considered rude because: 1) it makes people waste their time reading your same exact message over and over again!, 2) it unnecesarrily clutters our forums, and 3) it makes it more difficult for other people to follow the thread or offer you any help.

Your post also has nothing to do with this particular thread by Black Prince, so it simply does not belong here (for that matter, either does your "guide" posted earlier in this thread...it will only serve to confuse newbies who are trying to follow Black Prince's thread, despite whatever good intentions you may have had). Please start a brand new thread in situations when your comments/questions do not directly relate to an older thread.

The final bit of "netiquette" (internet etiquette) advice that I will impart upon you is that no one is ever going to take you seriously if you continue your nonsensical over-usage of L33t-speak/Instant-Messenger-lingo/slang (or whatever it is). Most of us here are adults who find it rather annoying. So plz real-eyes dat it don't B cool 2 giv peeple headachzzz bi incurrecktly spellin' yur werdz like dis on perpus.

I'm affraid you are not off to a very good start here at kvcd.net Mr. Demon. I'd suggest that you do some searching and learning on your own for awhile before posting here again so you don't end up finding yourself unwelcome (or worse, banned). I'm sorry if some of my words here have come across harshly, but I'm only saying what more than a few others must be thinking after reading your posts. It is my hope that you will take this criticism constructively and learn from it rather than taking offense or choosing to leave.

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dazed i cant tell u how much ur name says bout u ... ur like a little child ... dont u dare accuse me of piracy or any of dat otha shit ... all of ma 8 ripped dvd's were off of purchased home movies or gifts dat i received from some friends ... and for da 2 other divx movies ... dere ISNT A SIGNLE PERSON IN DIS SITE dat doesnt download deir movies ... ohhh but its illegal to talk bout them right? i understand, but i NEVER TALKED BOUT EM! im havin problems wit ma 8 ripped dvds and cant even get an answer! in fact, some incredible losers are gettin incredibly "pissed off" ...

im really sorry bout ma comments in da lil guide on da other cce forum .... normally dose dat call others noobs are da biggest noobs demselves .... and now i realize dat and im apologizin for it ... so now its ur turn! U KNOW WHAT I THINK? ur lil pussies dat cant handle some serious competition or JUST COMPETITION PERIOD. so u can ban, suspend, or do whatever u want wit me on dis site, but lmfao u think u can stop me? ur just a lil 2-year-old dat runs his mouth and accuses others of illegal stuff .... take some responsibility for once .....

look if ur not gonna answer ma question, i quite frankly dont giva ****, dere are so many workarounds to ma problem, but i thought da direct solution would be best (AND IT IS) ... but u guys (who are probably da ones who can help me) wanna talk crap and accuse me of piracy and say dat im pissin u off ... u need to simply stop pissin ALL OVER URSELF ... and as for ma SSG CCE recommendation on da other forum was nothin more dan a recommendation ... do u have $1500 in ur pocket to spend on a single software dat is only 14 MB big and well can be buggy sometimes too? das what i thought .... dat recommendation was forwarded to all da noobs out dere dat dont know how to get cce and use it ... so i was just bein of help ... and i wont do it again cuz if ur a noob, u technically shouldnt even bother askin bout how to encode wit cce .... ma question is different and much more complicated tho ... it has to do wit RGB and temporal smoother (which basically adds up to AviSynth, not da piracy of CCE SP) ....

so now .... ban me or answer me ... pussy
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