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Hi kwag

Looking back at some posts i come across one where you say you managed to get Star Wars 2 on 1 cd with res @528x480, is this correct?

I am currently in process of encoding 'Minority Report' which is 139min long. If you use 544x576 i have to drop CQ to 40 or so which isn't very good i believe.

Can you show me the script you used?

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Here's the script for "Attack of the clones" (Full Screen Version):

Code:
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\GripFit_preview.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\legalclip.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\sampler.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\dustv5.dll") 
LoadPlugin("C:\encoding\temporalcleanerold.dll")
Mpeg2Source("K:\ATTACK_OF_THE_CLONES_F1\VIDEO_TS\clones.d2v")
LegalClip() 
GripCrop( source_anamorphic=False, width=528, height=480, overscan=2 ) 
GripSize() 
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders() 
LegalClip() 
Sampler(length=24)
This was for a two CD target at a CQ value of 78.

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kwag wrote:

nicksteel wrote:

Does any particular version of AviSynth have to be present? All my other software is supposedly the same as yours.


You should have AviSynth 2.07 installed.

-kwag


Installed AviSynth 2.07, no change. Still getting near perfect output when running solely in TMPGEnc.

LoadPlugin("d:\videoutil\mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\videoutil\GripFit_preview.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\videoutil\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\videoutil\sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\videoutil\dustv5.dll")
LoadPlugin("d:\videoutil\temporalcleanerold.dll")
Mpeg2Source("d:\ATTACK\clones.d2v")
LegalClip()
GripCrop( source_anamorphic=False, width=528, height=480, overscan=2 )
GripSize()
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders()
LegalClip()
##Sampler(length=24)
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Hi nicksteel,

Uninstall Avisynth, and check that there are no avisynth.dll around your system. Then reinstall 2.07 again. I can't see what your problem is

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02-04-2003, 06:53 AM
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Hi nicksteel,

Uninstall Avisynth, and check that there are no avisynth.dll around your system. Then reinstall 2.07 again. I can't see what your problem is

-kwag
Uninstalled avisynth, made sure no other copies existed, reinstalled. No change, so I remain baffled.

As I have only one mpeg2dec3 and avisynth.dll on my system and all attempts using script fail, I'm having to use TMPGEnc exclusively.

If I use headac3he to generate mp2, TMPGEnc to generate m1v with KVCDx3 and bbMPEG to mux, can I use the prediction formula with script to determine file size?

I have no idea why avisynth scripts do not work properly, but the KVCDx3 template gives excellent results through TMPGEnc. I'll have to continue in this mode until I can figure out why the scripts don't function properly. The crop and other functions work ok, only the poor resolution is failing.
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mpeg2dec3 is a modified version of mpeg2dec. Have you tried mpeg2dec (the original one)? You can get this in the full package of acp.





Cheers,



Edit:

downloads thread:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2553
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02-04-2003, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
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mpeg2dec3 is a modified version of mpeg2dec. Have you tried mpeg2dec (the original one)? You can get this in the full package of acp.

Cheers,

Edit:

downloads thread:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2553
Tried that with same results. I will purge my system soon and try downloading everything again. I currently have the same versions Kwag uses, but cannot get around this poor color and speckle thing. I've purged and reinstalled several versions of MPEG2DEC and AVISYNTH, making sure that only one copy of each exists on my machine, to no avail. I'm sure the problem rests with these programs, as TMPGEnc works perfectly with the KVCDx3 template if use it to directly generate a mpg from a force film dv2 and headac3he mp2.

By the way: I am running 98SE on a PIII. I assume that makes no difference.
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I found posts on the site discussing replacing msyuv(yuy2) with Huffy codec. Tried it, but no improvement. The posts also mentioned adding ConvertToRgb to last line. It seems to work for my avs files. Given all this, is there a better way than ConvertToRgb, given that the Huffy codec didn't cure the problem?
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02-04-2003, 10:27 PM
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@nicksteel,

Try commenting:

#SpaceDust()
#TemporalCleaner()


and preview this using Tmpgenc. If this helps get rid of the problem,
use FluxSmooth() in place of TemporalCleaner().

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02-06-2003, 08:45 AM
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@nicksteel,

Try commenting:

#SpaceDust()
#TemporalCleaner()


and preview this using Tmpgenc. If this helps get rid of the problem,
use FluxSmooth() in place of TemporalCleaner().

-black prince
This has no effect without "converttorgb".

My problem seems to involve the codec.

I uninstalled msyuv[YUY2)
I installed Huffy lossless codec [HFYU]

I still have msyuv[UYVY] and msyuv[YUY2]

Is this ok?
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02-06-2003, 07:50 PM
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hi nicksteel,

This color issue has ben around before (back on vcdhelp) I've posted this
issue relating to my setup too, back then. It shouldn't be happending but
it seems to be an issue w/ your graphics card drivers. It was on mine.
On my 1st pc setup, I have this same (or similar) color issue when frame
serving an AVS script directly into TMPG, but when I do the same on my
2nd pc setup, i have no issues !! So, what gives ?? Simple. I've narrowed
it down to the Graphics Driver. I still can't get my 1st pc fixed, but
on my 2nd pc, it is working fine now. I can frameserve an AVS script right
into TMPG w/ out any color issues and NO ConvertToRGB() either. No matter
what anyone says (or recommends) wont work. Bottom line is, you have to
figure out where in your graphics driver, the culprit is (file) and replace
it. I had to do the same, as my graphics cards are basically the same.
Both are from ATI Sorry, I don't remember the file I replaced with,
but it was a lot of hard work, flipping through each file, replacing, and
renaming w/ another version, starting up AVS -> tmpg - - idd it work, no?
then change again, and save and then reboot, and start up, all over again.
Was a pain in the but. I did try the same config on my 1st pc, but it did
not work. But, I don't care. It works on my 2nd pc. Anyways..

An alternative that I use all the time is, AVS -> vdub -> tmpg
Works all the time, and no color issues. Does it slow down the frameserve
process ?? Not that I can tell. Besides, I much prever this method above
so that I can SEE the changes my script is applying. I don't like dropping
in an AVS into media player just for that - too many steps, too many moves.

I think, that if you still can't get anywheres w/ an final answere to your
given color issue, that you might want to give the AVS -> vdub -> tmpg
route a go. I see no slow ups w/ this step.

I do hope that you get it resolved, but never the less, don't give up any
of the script functions that Kwag and SansGrip has created, else you'll have
done them a disohoner in a way. Use the method above, and you'll get uesd
to it real quick, and ENJOY Kwag's templates. But good luck anyways.
-vhelp
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02-25-2003, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by vhelp
hi nicksteel,

This color issue has ben around before (back on vcdhelp) I've posted this
issue relating to my setup too, back then. It shouldn't be happending but
it seems to be an issue w/ your graphics card drivers. It was on mine.
On my 1st pc setup, I have this same (or similar) color issue when frame
serving an AVS script directly into TMPG, but when I do the same on my
2nd pc setup, i have no issues !! So, what gives ?? Simple. I've narrowed
it down to the Graphics Driver. I still can't get my 1st pc fixed, but
on my 2nd pc, it is working fine now. I can frameserve an AVS script right
into TMPG w/ out any color issues and NO ConvertToRGB() either. No matter
what anyone says (or recommends) wont work. Bottom line is, you have to
figure out where in your graphics driver, the culprit is (file) and replace
it. I had to do the same, as my graphics cards are basically the same.
Both are from ATI Sorry, I don't remember the file I replaced with,
but it was a lot of hard work, flipping through each file, replacing, and
renaming w/ another version, starting up AVS -> tmpg - - idd it work, no?
then change again, and save and then reboot, and start up, all over again.
Was a pain in the but. I did try the same config on my 1st pc, but it did
not work. But, I don't care. It works on my 2nd pc. Anyways..

An alternative that I use all the time is, AVS -> vdub -> tmpg
Works all the time, and no color issues. Does it slow down the frameserve
process ?? Not that I can tell. Besides, I much prever this method above
so that I can SEE the changes my script is applying. I don't like dropping
in an AVS into media player just for that - too many steps, too many moves.

I think, that if you still can't get anywheres w/ an final answere to your
given color issue, that you might want to give the AVS -> vdub -> tmpg
route a go. I see no slow ups w/ this step.

I do hope that you get it resolved, but never the less, don't give up any
of the script functions that Kwag and SansGrip has created, else you'll have
done them a disohoner in a way. Use the method above, and you'll get uesd
to it real quick, and ENJOY Kwag's templates. But good luck anyways.
-vhelp
How do I "AVS -> vdub -> tmpg"?
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02-25-2003, 11:27 AM
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How do I "AVS -> vdub -> tmpg"?
Open your .avs with Vdub, and frameserve from Vdub to TMPEG.

-kwag
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To frameserve from virtualdub, load your avs file into v-dub. Under the file menu choose frameserve, and in the first screen choose some arbitrary small name for the frameserve process. The next screen will ask you for a file name to use as the frameserve object, and again choose a small file name THAT ENDS IN .avi (very important--do not let it save it with the default .vdr or whatever it wants to use), and okay.

Now open TMPEnc as use the avi file you just created as the video source, and v-dub will frameserve to the encoder when you hit start.

Hope that helps!
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Quote:
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and again choose a small file name THAT ENDS IN .avi (very important--do not let it save it with the default .vdr
how come? I always save it as .vdr with no problems

thanks,
ren
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02-25-2003, 02:36 PM
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how come? I always save it as .vdr with no problems
Me too

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Quote:
Originally Posted by heller
To frameserve from virtualdub, load your avs file into v-dub. Under the file menu choose frameserve, and in the first screen choose some arbitrary small name for the frameserve process. The next screen will ask you for a file name to use as the frameserve object, and again choose a small file name THAT ENDS IN .avi (very important--do not let it save it with the default .vdr or whatever it wants to use), and okay.

Now open TMPEnc as use the avi file you just created as the video source, and v-dub will frameserve to the encoder when you hit start.

Hope that helps!
Thanks, guys! After literally months of fighting my ATI card and having to use converttorgb to get arround washed out color, everything's working perfectly by frameserving through vdub. No converttorgb, no converttoyuy2, no nothing, and perfect results with SKVCD.

Was wondering: When using SKVCD with DVD2AVI force film, will changing size to 480x480 inTMPGEnc make an Apex 1100 compatible output?

Thanks again.
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