KVCD: Speed problem - audio and video play too fast?
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i encoded my first kvcd (352x240) and was shocked to get a quality 500 meg movie. I noticed it did "processing inverse telecine" at the beginning, which took a LONG time. I guess what I ended up w/ was 23.99 fps and It plays great in my apex 2100 (most everything does). But in my toshiba DVD 2201 The movie plays too fast, kinda like in seacrh/FF.. Both the audio and the video play fast. could theis be becuase the framerate is too low? maybe it needs to be 29.9xx (i forget) ... I seen a lot of posts here about framerates and telecine, but nobody seems to have mentioned a movie playing at wrong speed... Thanks :roll: |
Could it be that you encoded the audio at 48Khz instead of 44.1Khz :idea:
-kwag |
I dont think so, im encoding it again, the only thing i changed is the framerate and this is pasted from the bottom of tempgenc:
MPEG-1 352x240 29.97fps CQ 70, Layer-2 44100Hz 128kbps last time was at 23.9x framerate hopefully, Ill know in a few hours (well, maybe more than a few) Now Im really confused because it did the inverse telecine thing again (much faster tho) and after I started I noticed the convert to 24 fps box is checked, but as I ran the wizard I changed the framerate to 29.97 so I guess its working redundantly? I woulda stopped it but its 30% done, I guess I'll soon see. :) |
BTW thanks for answering, and a big thanks for your hard work on these templates. I for one really am grateful you share your work and expertise with me and all of us :)
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sigh,
The new one at 29.97 fps does the same thing. Plays great in my apex, but in the toshiba it starts fine after about a min. or less it speeds up, looks like its playing at double speed... back to the drawing board. Nobody else has experienced this? |
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i really search about your problem. a good idea is turn 48k to 44.1k like Kwag post here. i don't have the toshiba player,but in some templates,i got problems using 48k. is better do a test with a little sample. this is the Compatibility Test ,and can help a lot,read and download please: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2464 i search and found this 2 links: the first, is called "Compatible Models" but you model "toshiba DVD 2201" maybe is newest,but the link is a good reference:(too big) 8O http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....oshiba&start=0 and the second is the thread called "standalone dvd/vcd players", is a big reference too: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=13 post the result,please! ps: is really a good idea turn 48k to 44.1k first, if it don't work, download the "compatible models test" and burn,is fast and you will see what template/resolution work in your player. :wink: |
hi,
I succesfully found more settings that do not work so, I guess, I'm narrowing it down (grin). I have sucessfully played dozens of vcds on that toshiba so I'm sure sooner or later I'll get it right. (sooner I hope). I know it will not play SVCDs even w/ that header "trick". I have been encoding the audio at 44.1 khz, as i said in a prev message. I never seperated the audio from the video, It seems too complicated a process for me at the moment. I run the template, press stop, select system video+audio and hit start. ( I listen thru 3" TV speakers anyway.) The video and audio are in sync, they just both play too fast... I downloaded the nero compatability image, and I will try it.. I'll let you know soon. I do kinda find it hard to believe I'm the first one w/ this problem though, but well hopefully after solving it , We can save somebody from burning all the coasters I have been. Thankx for the assistance ps Jorel, I'm honored you call me friend :) |
@ Fred|Flintstone :D
kidding but serious true: i'm not Barney, 8O but want to be your best friend here! :) ps: i'm waiting your answer about " nero compatability image ". |
First, I updated my profile, I didnt realize that it would put a button on all my posts to that picture, sorry to anybody offended. I just thought it was funny thing to stick in profile. :oops:
I ran the nero test, at first glance it seems the first 3 play (354x240) the bottom 3 are green. (on the toshiba) I kinda expected this as, the toshiba as I got it from the store didnt play nothing but dvds, VCDhELP.COM had some obscure combination of keys u pressed in the remotes and it now plays vcd 1.x and vcd 2.0 standards. On my apex, all but #6 played perfectly. I imagine the change to 544x480 will fix that. back to the toshiba, i said at first glance becuase the clips are so short. After playing repeatedly, I noticed that as Jerry Heads thru the door, it jumps like a scratched record till he comes out , and fixes itself just as he speaks. This happens exactly the same on all 3 clips. This prompted me to test different vbr settings, like min = 600, 800 max =1200 1400 ect. I have come to the conclusion that this player will not correctly play back vbr mpeg files :( watching my previous movie a little longer, the problem was the same. speeds up, pauses, gets jerky ect... oh well, time to smash the drawing board... :evil: |
Fred is a moron... :oops:
The player is a zenith DVD 2201 not a toshiba :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: |
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you are really Fred|Flintstone my friend! :lol: :lol: :lol: regards...Barney! :lol: :lol: ! |
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