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darkstar808 06-11-2002 01:35 AM

My experiment with cinemacraft encoder
 
Well I have been having problems getting kvcdx2 to work on my apex. I fixed it by encoding at 30 fps. Unfortunately this resulted it a 20% filesize increase. So I figured that if i encoded mpeg2 @ 23 fps and apply a pulldown I can get the 30 fps I need. Long story short, I fooled about with cinema craft encoder 2.5, using kwags kvcdx2 resolution, and applying Andreas svcd matrix I arrived at what I consider pretty good results.

The movie I encoded was "Sexy Beast" (89 minutes Long)
Using fitcd my avisynth script ended up being

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Beast_FF.d2v")
BilinearResize(688,350,6,0,708,480)
TemporalSmoother(1,2)
AddBorders(8,65,8,65)
#Trim(0,127641).FadeOut(150)
ResampleAudio(44100) # CCE 2.5 'crashfix' for Athlons
#== If you want this 'fix' permanently, edit the INI-file:
#== Under [AVSscript] set the CCEcrashfix-option to
#== CCEcrashfix=1

In CCE, I set it to Andreas' Matrix using ccepatcher, then I chose one pass vbr with Q=60, Min bitrate 600, Max bitrate 2500.
Under the Video Settings I chose Upper Field First, Progressive Frames, Linear Quantizer Scale, and Zig Zag Scannign order. I set intra DC precision to auto and the dar to 16:9.
Under the GOP Tab I use M=3, N/M=5, seq header =1. Under Quality Settings I set Image Quality Priority to 10 and Turned off the antinoise filter.

After encoding the final file size for the video was 486,736KB. I was going to do a multipass vbr but the quality was so good, I didn't have to. In bitrate viewer I got an AVG. Q factor of 3.96, Max Q 5.76. I had enough room left over for audio and director's comentary(192 kbps) and selectable subtitles.

This is my first attempt at anything like this and I've got to thank everyone on this forum for their insights and knowledge. Here is a sample of what my final product is (video only).

http://www.cableone.net/mbhowm10/Sample_NTSC.mpv

If anyone could offer any improvements, it would be appreciated.

Darkstar808

Omega 06-11-2002 03:08 AM

Re: My experiment with cinemacraft encoder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darkstar808
Under the Video Settings I chose Upper Field First, Progressive Frames, Linear Quantizer Scale, and Zig Zag Scannign order. I set intra DC precision to auto and the dar to 16:9.
Under the GOP Tab I use M=3, N/M=5, seq header =1. Under Quality Settings I set Image Quality Priority to 10 and Turned off the antinoise filter.
http://www.cableone.net/mbhowm10/Sample_NTSC.mpv

If anyone could offer any improvements, it would be appreciated.

Darkstar808

Hi

Yes, I have done similar with CCE, but with KVCD matrix and got very good result and the speed is fantastic.

But don't you have problem with muxing afterward ?

If I use BBMpeg to mux (MPEG1, muxrate 0), the file size will be ~100MB bigger, if I use Tmpeg the file size may be ok but then increase in VCDEasy about ~100MB too ... The only tool that can keep the file size is VCDCutter 1.04 ....

If you know a better way for muxing please let me know ....

Omega

darkstar808 06-11-2002 08:09 AM

Re: My experiment with cinemacraft encoder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega
Hi

Yes, I have done similar with CCE, but with KVCD matrix and got very good result and the speed is fantastic.

But don't you have problem with muxing afterward ?

If I use BBMpeg to mux (MPEG1, muxrate 0), the file size will be ~100MB bigger, if I use Tmpeg the file size may be ok but then increase in VCDEasy about ~100MB too ... The only tool that can keep the file size is VCDCutter 1.04 ....

If you know a better way for muxing please let me know ....

Omega

I am encoding MPEG2 not mpeg1. So I mux as svcd not vcd. Haven't had any problems with that.

Darkstar808

TKS 06-13-2002 09:12 PM

Hey Darkstar
 
Could you by chance tell me where i can get this Andreas svcd matrix? Ive heard of it... I went looking for it with the search engines and found nothing.. Thanks

tks

kwag 06-13-2002 10:17 PM

Re: Hey Darkstar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TKS
Could you by chance tell me where i can get this Andreas svcd matrix? Ive heard of it... I went looking for it with the search engines and found nothing.. Thanks

tks

It's the default Q. Matrix in the KVCDx2 templates 8)
You can see it in the .mcf template files.

kwag

Rookie 06-14-2002 12:35 AM

In the link below the poster made an collection of all known to be good matrixes posted in the dvd-svcd forum and elsewhwere.

http://www.dvd-svcd-forum.de/phorum/...2;t=717;hl=yuv

Rookie


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