Encoding: Svcdbuilder for SVCD Creation - Page 2

telemike · #21 05-21-2003, 07:08 AM

I was going to try it but it would nto create the wav file for audio? Did Iset something wrong? What extra files do i need to download that aren;t in the bundle? thanks.

kwag · #22 05-21-2003, 10:06 AM

I am having problems too, even with version 2.1.3.4

Same thing!, it doesn't create the WAV and never runs either Procoder or CCE, even if I leave all options at default. That is, just open my .d2v, and click next, next, next and then hit "Start"!.
Here's my log:

Code:

INPUT:        NTSC , Progressive , 23.976fps, Anamorphic
OPTIONS:   BicubicResize, mplex muxer
OUTPUT:    SVCD
CD SIZE:     80 min
ENCODER:  CinemaCraft Encoder

AUDIO:  
    Track 1: English AC3 6ch  to MPA 160 kbps, Dolby Surround  II

VIDEO:
  MPEG-2  3 pass VBR
  BOURNE_D1:
     Fading: OUT
        Bitrate: 1696  ( 794 - 2590 ) kbps
           Length: 59:08
  BOURNE_D2:
     Fading: IN, OUT
        Bitrate: 1692  ( 794 - 2590 ) kbps
           Length: 59:15
======================================================
WAVE FILE CREATION
VIDEO & AUDIO ENCODING
VIDEO PULLDOWN
VIDEO & AUDIO MUXING
XML FILES CREATION
DISC IMAGES CREATION
======================================================

WAV FILE CREATION
Files found:
K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB
K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.VOB
K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.VOB
File K:\DVDbot\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\bourne.lst created
Transcoding started at 11:01:47 AM
K:\temp2\bourne.wav transcoding failed !

VIDEO & AUDIO ENCODING
File K:\temp2\bourne.wav not found!

VIDEO PULLDOWN
File C:\TESTAPP\bourne1.mpv not found!
File C:\TESTAPP\bourne2.mpv not found!

VIDEO & AUDIO MULTIPLEXING
File K:\temp2\bourne1pd.mpv not found!
File K:\temp2\bourne2pd.mpv not found!

XML FILES CREATION
XML creation started at 11:01:58 AM
K:\temp2\bourne1.xml
K:\temp2\bourne2.xml
Created at 11:01:58 AM

DISC IMAGES CREATION
File K:\temp2\bourne1.xml found
Disc image creation started at 11:01:58 AM
K:\temp2\bourne1.xml corrupted - Disc image creation failed !
File K:\temp2\bourne2.xml found
Disc image creation started at 11:01:59 AM
K:\temp2\bourne2.xml corrupted - Disc image creation failed !
ALL DONE !

-kwag

telemike · #23 05-21-2003, 10:41 AM

samer kind of error.

does not transcode or create the wav file....

do you need to exract the wav file using dvd2avi?

kwag · #24 05-21-2003, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telemike

samer kind of error.

does not transcode or create the wav file....

do you need to exract the wav file using dvd2avi?

No. As stated on migor's site:

Code:

2.   Open DVD2AVI and load VOBs. Set Audio -> Track Number to "None".
      If the movie is NTSC "Film", check Video -> Field Operation -> "Forced Film". 
     Create DVD2AVI project file for the full movie.

@migor,

Could we be missing some DLL's

-kwag

migor · #25 05-21-2003, 11:54 AM

Ok, guys !

It could be BeSweet problem. The BeSweet version 1.4 some time ago gave me an error, when trying extract something from vobs using *.lst file (sure, Vobinput.dll must present). So, I did upgrade to the newest beta version 1.5b11 (now already 1.5b17, see DSPguru website) and it works fine. When I added program bundle, I took only version 1.4, tested it and it worked. But maybe, my previous upgrade to 1.5b11 made changes, that I can't see? It will be fine, if you can test this wav BeSweet extraction (using *.lst file)independently, outside of the Builder. You can use BeSweetGUI to simplificate the process. It will be very helpful.
Additionally, I want to check possibility of extraction and DS2 downmixing into AC3 file, it can be much faster and requires less disk space. There is now avisynth plugin "AC3source", but currently it works only in stereo mode. So, it's interesting to test it.
I'll check this issue right now, and post result.

Sorry, I was at work and couldn't reply earlier.

migor · #26 05-21-2003, 12:13 PM

I have solved the problem.
The cause is that "shibatch.dll" is missing in this BeSweet package.
I will add this dll and update the site now !

kwag · #27 05-21-2003, 01:50 PM

Downloading it right now

-kwag

migor · #28 05-21-2003, 02:15 PM

OK, kwag, I'm here.
Be sure, that you have enough disk space!

kwag · #29 05-21-2003, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by migor

Be sure, that you have enough disk space!

So far, so good. It's currently on the *** WAV EXTRACTION *** phase.
I'll report here when the process is done. I did check "subtitles". Does that mean that it will do permanent subs on the MPEG

Also, there's an option "HQ-VCD". What's that

Thanks,
-kwag

migor · #30 05-21-2003, 02:55 PM

It is from VCDImager manual:

HQ Video CD 1.0
---------------

This is actually just a minor variation defined in IEC-62107 on the
Super Video CD 1.0 format for _compatibility with current products in
the market_. It differs from the Super Video CD 1.0 format in the
following items:

* The system profile tag field in `/SVCD/INFO.SVD' is set to `1'
instead of `0'.

* The system identification field value in `/SVCD/INFO.SVD' is set to
`HQ-VCD' instead of `SUPERVCD'.

* `/EXT/SCANDATA.DAT' is mandatory instead of being optional.

* `/SVCD/SEARCH.DAT' is optional instead of being mandatory.

What's about subtitles, the "exclusive" support was made by request of my friends. Subtitles are permanent , inserted into mpeg. I didn't work enough for subtitles support yet, so Builder DO NOT rip subtitles ! What do you see in the "Subtitles" window is currently only for reference. No actions. So, subtitles must be extracted in the format, compatible with DVD2SVCD, or just by DVD2SVCD. For this task DVD2SVCD dll is used - "Avisynth Subtitler.dll". And the limitation is that the directory, where subtitle pictures are and text file name are permanent - you can see it in the script. It's not so good, I know, but as is for now. I personally time-to-time use a voice translation, mixed with created wav file - it's advantage of wav.

So, if "Subtitles" are checked, the process will probably fail - come back, uncheck and start again. The wav will not be recreated, encoding will be started!

kwag · #31 05-21-2003, 03:57 PM

Well, it bombed

It went all the way to ProCoder, and just sits there

No frames per second, no nothing. I did set the Global Default option on ProCoder. Currently using version 1.01.35.0
I also tried with CCE, and CCE crashed.
I'm using Link2 version 0.951

-kwag

migor · #32 05-21-2003, 04:13 PM

kwag, all ok!
First of all, Link2 o.951 don't work with Procoder - only 0.942 !!! It's written on my page. All newest versions give empty prewiew window and 0 file size! Because of this I want to add VFAPIreader support. If you wish to try 0.942, I can send.
CCE doesn't work - it's strange. What CCE version do you use? And, if you can, please right click on cctspt.exe, open "Properties" and say me, what is written under "Description" .Is it the same, like text on the CCE title bar + "-- noname" ? And what error message you get, when cce starting fails?
Is your avs file playing in WindowsMediaPlayer? Did you uncheck subtitles?

kwag · #33 05-21-2003, 04:32 PM

Currently using CCE Trial Version 2.67.00.09
Under properties/description: CCE SP Trial Version
I have Link2 0.94 (I'm a registered user!), so I just installed it and I will try again.

-kwag

kwag · #34 05-21-2003, 04:43 PM

Hi Michael,

Apparently Link2 was the problem

It's currently encoding in CCE

Let you know later

-kwag

migor · #35 05-21-2003, 04:53 PM

I'm glad, that it so-so works.
Now I see few points for improvement.
Thank you very much, kwag, you really help!
Please let me know about any possible problem, and your suggestions.
For now, good bye, I must go to the bed

See you later!

Best regards,

migor · #36 05-22-2003, 04:16 PM

Hello, Kwag and all !

I would like to know about program testt results, are there additional problems ?
I've fixed one moment: now you cant check "subtitles", if they don't exist.
I'm very close to adding VFAPI reader support. All will be added to the next compilation tomorrow or a day later.
And also, I checked possibility of TMPGenc support, it seems to be not too complex using templates. Here I need some help.
Or I must fix a lot of bugs too ?

kwag · #37 05-22-2003, 07:22 PM

Hi Michael,

I tried a couple of times yesterday, but the results were not very good

My CCE won't run anymore, because my trial expired. I really don't use CCE, because I only do MPEG-1 with TMPEG because it's the best quality achieved on low bitrates.So I switched to ProCoder, and I'm testing it now, but I get this far:

Code:

INPUT:        NTSC , Progressive , 23.976fps, 4:3
OPTIONS:   BicubicResize, mplex muxer
OUTPUT:    SVCD
CD SIZE:     80 min
ENCODER:  Canopus ProCoder

AUDIO:  
    Track 1: English AC3 6ch  to MPA 112 kbps, Dolby Surround  II

VIDEO:
  MPEG-2  2 pass VBR
  BOURNE_D1:
     Fading: OUT
        Bitrate: 816  ( 0 - 2638 ) kbps
           Length: 118:16
======================================================
WAVE FILE CREATION
WRAPPER CREATION
VIDEO & AUDIO ENCODING
VIDEO PULLDOWN
VIDEO & AUDIO MUXING
XML FILES CREATION
DISC IMAGES CREATION
======================================================

WAV FILE CREATION
File K:\temp2\bourne.wav exists

AVS WRAPPER CREATION
File K:\temp\bourne1.avs found
Wrapper creation started at 7:21:51 PM
K:\temp\bourne1.avs - Wrapper creation...

And on the tasks window, I get:

Code:

***** WRAPPER 1 CREATION *****
Wait...

And it stays there for a LOOOOOOng time

Never runs ProCoder, and of course, completes the process without encoding. Here's the complete log:

Code:

INPUT:        NTSC , Progressive , 23.976fps, 4:3
OPTIONS:   BicubicResize, mplex muxer
OUTPUT:    SVCD
CD SIZE:     80 min
ENCODER:  Canopus ProCoder

AUDIO:  
    Track 1: English AC3 6ch  to MPA 112 kbps, Dolby Surround  II

VIDEO:
  MPEG-2  2 pass VBR
  BOURNE_D1:
     Fading: OUT
        Bitrate: 816  ( 0 - 2638 ) kbps
           Length: 118:16
======================================================
WAVE FILE CREATION
WRAPPER CREATION
VIDEO & AUDIO ENCODING
VIDEO PULLDOWN
VIDEO & AUDIO MUXING
XML FILES CREATION
DISC IMAGES CREATION
======================================================

WAV FILE CREATION
File K:\temp2\bourne.wav exists

AVS WRAPPER CREATION
File K:\temp\bourne1.avs found
Wrapper creation started at 7:21:51 PM
K:\temp\bourne1.avi
Created at 7:27:06 PM

VIDEO & AUDIO ENCODING
File K:\temp2\bourne.wav found
No source file found!

VIDEO PULLDOWN
File K:\temp\bourne1.m2v not found!

VIDEO & AUDIO MULTIPLEXING
File K:\temp2\bourne1pd.mpv found
File K:\temp\bourne1.m2a not found!

XML FILES CREATION
XML creation started at 7:27:27 PM
K:\temp2\bourne1.xml
Created at 7:27:27 PM

DISC IMAGES CREATION
File K:\temp2\bourne1.xml found
Disc image creation started at 7:27:27 PM
K:\temp2\bourne1.bin
K:\temp2\bourne1.cue
Created at 7:27:28 PM
ALL DONE !

telemike · #38 05-23-2003, 06:03 AM

I tried yesterday with CCE 2.50 SP

After it finished with the audio conversion, it launched CCE and then crashed. Must have been while trying to load the ecl files........

Can't wait for it to be working perfect (or near as can be!)

migor · #39 05-23-2003, 08:35 AM

Hello guys, kwag and telemike !

I want to say, that it works fine for few my friends and never crashes!
But I'm in the "visual" contact with them, so it is more easy to make proper setup of all programs and I can see, what if something is not right.
So,
KWAG:

You wrote: " ***** WRAPPER 1 CREATION *****
Wait...
And it stays there for a LOOOOOOng time"
From the log file I can see, that it was finished in 6 minutes! It's too long.

AVS WRAPPER CREATION
File K:\temp\bourne1.avs found
Wrapper creation started at 7:21:51 PM
K:\temp\bourne1.avi
Created at 7:27:06 PM

After that

VIDEO & AUDIO ENCODING
File K:\temp2\bourne.wav found
No source file found!

Encoding failed, because a wrapper file K:\temp\bourne1.avi was not found ! But where is it? Link2 is launched with command line, in your case it is "Link2.exe -r K:\temp\bourne1.avs K:\temp\bourne1.avi". I can't check, if Link2 create it properly, but I check, if this avi exists on the hard disk before encoding. You get message, that the file doesn't exists. According to my tests, Link2 creates avi file even from wrong avs, it creates wrong avi, but creates it! So, I see the problem around of Link2.
The avs script can't be wrong, it works.
So, I would like to ask you to check these cases:
1. Is Avisynth installed properly?
2. Is mpeg2dec.dll suitable for this Avisynth version and placed in win/System32 folder or in the same folder as SVCDbuilder2.exe?
3. Can you play created avs script in your WinMediaPlayer (no errors)?
4. Is the Link2 installed properly? Try to create avi from avs that you have manually and play it in WMP.
After that we can make conclusions, where is a bug, if it is. From my side, I've checked the program code, did many tests today and don't see any problem, except of few issues like video only encoding, subtitles... that I already have fixed by the way.
To save time during the tests you can create 1disc project and select very small piece of the movie, about 1000 frames. I'm just disappointed, so I would like to break this circle!!!

TELEMIKE:
You wrote "...it launched CCE and then crashed.Must have been while trying to load the ecl files....."

What means "crashed" ? Did you get any error message ? What happened more exactly ? If you have an AMD CPU in your machine, CCE2.50 will never work with audio, it has AMD related bug, that was fixed in newer versions. It's suitable for video only encoding.

kwag · #40 05-23-2003, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by migor

So, I would like to ask you to check these cases:
1. Is Avisynth installed properly?
2. Is mpeg2dec.dll suitable for this Avisynth version and placed in win/System32 folder or in the same folder as SVCDbuilder2.exe?
3. Can you play created avs script in your WinMediaPlayer (no errors)?
4. Is the Link2 installed properly? Try to create avi from avs that you have manually and play it in WMP.

Yes to all 4

I'm currently encoding a movie right now, like almost every day

, via DVD2AVI->.d2v/MovieStacker->.avs/ToK->TMPEG
So the complete filter chain is working properly. I can also play .avs with WMP, and also .avis created with link2.

-kwag