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If the original film is NTSC, can I use PAL resolution in KVCD?
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You can try, but your DVD player might not play it if you don't convert the framerate too.
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for me it works

source : ntsc

i encoded: ntsc framerate, but pal resolution

and burned it as non-standard pal vcd with nero

but my cyberhome does not complain about anything, he reads everything
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I thought that mpeg1 and mpeg2 do not store NTSC, PAL or other tv specs.., so x*y resolution and framerate are independent.
What you mean if the palyer see 352*240 or 480*480 resolution it might enforce NTSC or PAL corresponding framerate?
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I thought that mpeg1 and mpeg2 do not store NTSC, PAL or other tv specs.., so x*y resolution and framerate are independent.
Nope!

Watch your mpeg, m1v or m2v in DVDpatcher there you'll see that these spects are also included in the header of the stream.
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These headers maybe no a part of .m1v or .m2v stream, since mpeg specs do not contain tv format, correct?
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These headers maybe no a part of .m1v or .m2v stream, since mpeg specs do not contain tv format, correct?
What do you call "tv format" ?

Note: please, do not do double post on same subject. It's hard to follow both threads.
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....694&highlight=
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These headers maybe no a part of .m1v or .m2v stream, since mpeg specs do not contain tv format, correct?
These headers ARE a part of a mpeg based stream ....
... they contain the aspect ratio
... the resolution
... the bitrate
... the FPS count
... the mode (ntsc/pal)
... and more

According to your "tv format" that will be found by the header specs. mode/FPS and Aspect ratio! Thats a fact.

But what do you want to tell us?
As I said that all this also depends on the players behaviour! And how he allows non-standards by reading the specs separately!

A "in love with standard" player reads the header as followed:
...."if the mode is pal (maybe he starts with this but no matter) then Size should be xxx,yyy and the FPS should be xx.xxx" If one of these do not match the player won't show it on your Tv like he should do
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Thnks for your help and I don't argue - i am the beginner.
I am having problems how to converta good movie
576*288 @ 25 fps crooked source (somebody smarter than me choppd heads and legs of it, and made it 1:1 aspect).
When I'm trying to convert it to PAL 480*576 or 352*288
I always get wrong aspect, even seems like I've added borders and scale correctly; then I'm trying to convert it to NTSC resolution, aspect appears ok, but when I do telecine to 29.97 fps I get a jittering and when I do 23.976 fps by inverse telecine filter complaining about lots of drop frames.
I think it is a typical example of problems ppl can have, so I'm just asking..
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576*288 @ 25 fps crooked source (somebody smarter than me choppd heads and legs of it, and made it 1:1 aspect).
When I'm trying to convert it to PAL 480*576 or 352*288
IF the aspect ratio is correct on the source, why don't you use MovieStacker to obtain the correct resizing/borders values to obtain a perfect PAL VCD ou SVCD with correct A/R ?
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i am in a command line agent smith, i use cat and sed instead of word. the exercise is to nake it hard and right way, not just watching..
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