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07-30-2003, 02:14 AM
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Hi (last time) Kwag..

This time, I got the same issues before, w/ the error mesage about 3:2 pulldown.

Also, a new twist..
The window open very fast, three time and closed down. I know I've read
this issue before, so I'll give a search tomorrow, cause I'm really tired now

Thanks for lots,
signing off...
-vhelp


But, here is my log file FWIW:
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CQMatic Version 1.0 Release.
Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003.
All rights reserved.
Time: 03:09:30 Date: 07/30/2003
Ready!
Project: H:\dogma.2.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

H:\dogma.mpg
Execute.
Movie Time: 128
Average Bitrate: 733
Prediction Only mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Process started at 03:10:57
On 07/30/2003
CQ too LOW!. Adjusted.
Using CQ of 55.00
Entering CF phase.
Using CQ of 50.00
FAST source analysis...
Process time: 0.23 minutes.
Encoder end.
Correction Factor = 0.6800
Exit CF phase.
Using CQ of 55.00
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.02 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1077.562378
Last CQ = 55.000000
Current CQ = 90.000000
Using CQ of 90.00
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.05 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference = 1077.562378
CQ ABOVE watermark. CQ set to 90.0
Using CQ of 90.00
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 0.30
Process ended at 03:11:15
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07-30-2003, 03:21 AM
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Ok, my PC just finished encoding movie...
Result: 781 129 659 bytes
Must be: 683.19 Mb....
Too bad.
The movie was: Half Past Dead, hi-action movie
Average bitrate: 972
MAX - 2000
MIN - 554
Total lenght - 97 min
Source - DVD
Now I cant fit it to cd, even with 112 kbps sound
CQmatic - version RC-3
Now i try to predict with newest (RC-5) version of CQmatic...
Still no success!
With RC5 the size of result is 771 802 741

May be MovieStacker gived me WRONG average bitrate? With which tool i can check it?

And I'll try version 1.0 final...
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07-30-2003, 04:46 AM
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@Kwag

Why use a max bitrate of 2000? SVCD or x(S)VCD can go higher, why not use it? Would it not improve the encode?

Also, do you have answers to my previous post?

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So, if I want to encode a sample with my script settings and fave template to check the resulting quality, how do I do it?

Also, do the filters loaded in the optimal script come with Avisynth or are they external?

What sort of figures are passed to the Letterbox and GripCrop filters?
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07-30-2003, 11:36 AM
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This probably sound stupid but how do I find the log for cqmatic, I know it says it copies to the clipboard, but where is the clipboard, because I cant seem to find it on my comp?

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07-30-2003, 11:42 AM
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Clipboard =

copy -> clipboard
paste <- cliboard

(ctrl+c and ctrl+v)
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07-30-2003, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vhelp
This time, I got the same issues before, w/ the error mesage about 3:2 pulldown.
Fixed in 1.01

-kwag
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07-30-2003, 12:06 PM
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Thanks Razor..I should've realized it was something simple.



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07-30-2003, 12:07 PM
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@Kwag

Why use a max bitrate of 2000? SVCD or x(S)VCD can go higher, why not use it? Would it not improve the encode?
It has to do with the linearity range in TMPEG, when allocation bits. If the MIN and MAX are spread to wide apart from average, specifically when average is not centered between MIN and MAX, prediction will not be as accurate.
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Also, do you have answers to my previous post?


So, if I want to encode a sample with my script settings and fave template to check the resulting quality, how do I do it?

Also, do the filters loaded in the optimal script come with Avisynth or are they external?

What sort of figures are passed to the Letterbox and GripCrop filters?
This is a CQMatic thread Not an AviSynth thread

-kwag
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07-30-2003, 01:41 PM
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Given the rapid development of CQMatic and numerous postings and tests, have you any speculation about when you will reach release 2.0 that includes the DVD friendly bitrate calculator?

I'm still testing with KDVD by using the prediction formula you so thoughtfully posted and really appreciate the effort you're putting into this. I think the day is quickly approaching when we can just start CQMatic and sit back and watch it do all the work!

It's been a long time since I saw your first postings on another site that described putting an entire film on a single CD. KVCD/KDVD and now automatic prediction!
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07-30-2003, 02:59 PM
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Hi nicksteel,

I don't have a time frame yet, because I want to get prediction as perfect as possible. There are still some inconsistencies with interlaced sources and DivX sources. Not as bad as before, but still not as accurate as I want it to be. So you'll be seeing 1.0x releases, which will be either bug fixes, or prediction adjustments only. After that, then I'll release version2, which will sport the calculator and who knows what else
But I assure you that when we are happy with prediction, count on less that 24 hours, and you'll see version 2 posted

-kwag
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07-30-2003, 08:21 PM
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ok, heres my results on Dog Soldiers PAL DVD (99min):

movie stacker average bitrate - 1009
i used 2000max and 300min in tmpgenc
movie stacker wanted file size - 727mg
encoded file size - 750mg

the encoded file size was not too far off, but i still can't fit it onto a cd

could it be that movie stacker is giving me a high average bitrate for some reason
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07-30-2003, 08:26 PM
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Hi kinggee,

Did you use CQM 1.0 or greater

Edit: I get an average of 987Kbps with MovieStacker for a time of 99 minutes

-kwag
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07-30-2003, 08:30 PM
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hey kwag,

i used CQMatic Version 1.0 RC-5

i am trying Version 1.02Release now
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07-30-2003, 08:44 PM
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Based on my average, yours would give +17424KB over required
Check that you have set Moviestacker to "MPEG Multiplexing: bbMpeg VCD MPEG-1", and "Seq. header alignment" checked
Then, you should see 987Kbps for average bitrate.
So your final size would have been 750MB (~768,000KB - 17,424KB) = 750,576KB. And then 750,576KB / 1.024 = ~732.984MB which would have been damn close to your required 727MB

-kwag
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07-30-2003, 08:47 PM
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ok now i don't know whats going on

Code:
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CQMatic Version 1.02 Release.
Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003.
All rights reserved.
Time: 11:42:20 Date: 07/31/2003
Ready!
Project: C:\DogSoldiers\DogSoldiers.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

C:\DogSoldiers\DogSoldiers.m1v
Execute.
Movie Time: 99
Average Bitrate: 1009
Prediction Only mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Process started at 11:42:51
On 07/31/2003
Entering CF phase.
Using CQ of 50.00
FAST source analysis...
Process time: 0.82 minutes.
Encoder end.
Correction Factor = 0.9965
Exit CF phase.
Using CQ of 65.00
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.10 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.052470
Last CQ = 65.00
Current CQ = 34.21
Using CQ of 34.21
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.08 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.052470
Last CQ = 34.21
Current CQ = 18.81
Low diff. CQ bumped!
Using CQ of 14.11
Encoder started...
Process time: 0.08 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.052470
CQ BELOW watermark. CQ set to 1.0
Using CQ of 1.00
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 1.08
Process ended at 11:43:56
On 07/31/2003
and this is what it said at the bottom of tmpgenc when it started:

CQMatic (MPEG-1 528x480 0.0023976fps CQ 50)

i've stuffed something up good
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07-30-2003, 08:55 PM
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ok i checked the Seq. header alignment box and now it gives me an average of 995. Better, but not 987

i am using 96kbps sound
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07-30-2003, 09:02 PM
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Hey guys, man got home from work today and found three new releases
and see that the warning about divx and xvid is gone.

one question Kwag you wrote
Quote:
and "Seq. header alignment" checked
in moviestacker is this just for a certian project or should it be checked all the time because i looked in my settings and mine isin't checked.

Thanx
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07-30-2003, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kinggee

and this is what it said at the bottom of tmpgenc when it started:

CQMatic (MPEG-1 528x480 0.0023976fps CQ 50)
That is correct

-kwag
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07-30-2003, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kinggee

and this is what it said at the bottom of tmpgenc when it started:

CQMatic (MPEG-1 528x480 0.0023976fps CQ 50)
That is correct

-kwag


i re-installed tmpgenc and everything seems back to normal now

but i still can't get movie stacker to give me an average of 987
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07-30-2003, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigggt

one question Kwag you wrote
Quote:
and "Seq. header alignment" checked
in moviestacker is this just for a certian project or should it be checked all the time because i looked in my settings and mine isin't checked.

Thanx
SORRY Don't check Align sequence headers. It must be unchecked



-kwag
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