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I'm new to kvcd,can somebody please tell me which is the best template to use, on a 92 min film so it will fit on 1 cd, with the highest quality. i would like to encode to svcd. thanks
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I'm new to this myself, but I would have thought you should be using Kwags 'Latest Scripts' . http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483
Works OK for me, although I just create VCD's.
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Hi bashi007,

If you want a SVCD compatible MPEG-2 with better quality and longer play time ( ), then download the SKVCD and change the resolution to 480x.
Then you can put ~2 hours on one CD as SVCD with KVCD parameters, with better quality than a regular SVCD

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Thanks kwag, i will try that. Also is better if i use TOK? i tried using tok, avisynth was fine but when tok was running, i had problems with beesweet (it couldnt open the file).
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Hi bashi,

Just use ToK for your video, and encode your audio separately
Then use BBMpeg or Mplex to mux your files.

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07-16-2003, 05:21 PM
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Thanks again kwag, you are a great help. Just a last question, i noticed when i open the skvcd ntsc template the frame rate is 23.976 (which matches my film) but when the encoding starts on tmpgen it says 29.97. Is that Ok? would i get jerky playback? thanks again
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Double check that on TMPEG you see "3:2 Pulldown" enabled on the main screen. You're basically encoding at 23.976fps with 3:2 pulldown flag enabled. This is the only way you can encode for SVCD, as SVCD doesn't support 23.976fps. Only 25fps (PAL) and 29.97fps (NTSC) or 23.976 with 3:2 enabled.
Take a look at this nice article http://www.inwards.com/~dbb/interlace_myths.html

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07-17-2003, 04:39 AM
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Hi

when i enable the 3:2 Pulldown, it says mpeg 2 cant encode higher than 3ofps, do i need to change the original frame rate to 23.97 then enable the 3:2 pulldown flag? also is the 3:2 flag in advance menu of tmpgenc.

thanks again (i'm nearly there!)
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07-17-2003, 11:16 AM
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When you change to 3:2 pulldown on the "Encode mode:", you must change the frame rate to read: "23.976 fps (Internally 29.97 fps)"

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i'm using tok to convert my movie to svcd, 480x480 but it is taking 16hours!could i get the same quality if i were to encode to mpeg-1 keeping the same resoultion? or do i have to reduce the resoultion? thanks again
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Hi bashi007,

On low bitrates, you'll get better quality with MPEG-1

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ok, so should i use kvcdx3 template with resoultion of 252plus, with a maximum bit rate of 1600. kwag thanks alot you have been great help.
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07-18-2003, 01:26 AM
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Quote:
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ok, so should i use kvcdx3 template with resoultion of 252plus
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, with a maximum bit rate of 1600.
Max bitrate of 2,000Kbps.

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ok,is it best to have the resoultion at 480x480 or stick with standard 352x288?
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ok,is it best to have the resoultion at 480x480 or stick with standard 352x288?
352x480 will be way better that 352x240. 480x480 is slightly better than 352x480, and KVCDx3 (528x480) is better that 480x480 (If your player supports it )

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kwag thanks, i will encode and let you guys know the results.
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Hi

Kwag, how do i change the video arrange method on tmpgenc using TOK, so my movie will come out as Full screen(keep aspect ratio) at the moment it is coming out at centre. I have encoded the film and the quality is great,480x480 svcd.
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07-18-2003, 02:30 PM
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You adjust your resolution in your .avs script. ToK uses "Center" as default, which will display your output aspect correctly.

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hi again
I cant encode resoultions 480x480 or 528x480, mpeg 2 with TOK, i can encode below. here is my sript

# DLL Section ##
#
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\GripFit_YV12.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\STMedianFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\unfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\MovieStacker\Filters\undot.dll")
#
####

## Defined Variables and Constants ##
#
MaxTreshold = 1.50
nf = 0 # Current frame.
#
####

## Main section and static filters ###
#
AviSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Imran Bashir\My Documents\My Music\Movies\13ghosts.divx.avi")
#
undot()
Limiter()
asharp(1, 4)
GripCrop(480, 480, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 )
MergeChroma(blur(MaxTreshold))
MergeLuma(blur(0.1))
#
#

## Linear Motion Adaptive Filtering ##
#
# ( Portions from AviSynth's manual ) - This will apply temporalsoften to
# very static scenes, and apply variable blur on moving scenes.
# We also assign a variable - and this is why a line break is inserted:

SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf >= SwitchThreshold ? \
unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ) : \
TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")

#
#
#

GripBorders()
#LetterBox( Your_Values_Here ) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker!
Limiter()

#
#
## Functions ###

function fmin( int f1, int f2) {
return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2
}

#
####

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07-18-2003, 04:34 PM
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What do you mean by "You can't encode"
If it means that the aspect you see is incorrect, then it's probably because you are watching on your computer with WMP. If this is the case, you must use WinDVD or PowerDVD to display your aspect correctly. Or burn the MPEG to CD-R and view it on your standalone.

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