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I used RC-5 once or twice and got very accurate results. I was away for a few days and downloaded 1.04 and did everything right and when I fire off CQMatic my framerate shows up with a bunch of zeros and the CQ default to 50 even though I set it to 60. This is a DVD source Any ideas??

Needless to say this doesn't work

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I used RC-5 once or twice and got very accurate results. I was away for a few days and downloaded 1.04 and did everything right and when I fire off CQMatic my framerate shows up with a bunch of zeros and the CQ default to 50 even though I set it to 60. This is a DVD source Any ideas??

Needless to say this doesn't work
Wait for 1.05
And the numbers you point in the arrow, they are correct
So is the "50", as set in that phase.

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08-02-2003, 03:24 AM
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Yea but the framerate is wrong isn't it? It shows up as .0023976 instead of 23.976
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Yea but the framerate is wrong isn't it? It shows up as .0023976 instead of 23.976
Nope 1.05 same problem.
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08-02-2003, 07:04 AM
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It's not a problem
It's designed that way

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08-02-2003, 11:27 AM
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I'm Encoding PAL Material but I also get 0.0023976. Shouldn't it be 0.0025 ?
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It's not a problem
It's designed that way

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Doh. Sorry for wasting your time I should have done some more reading first. I saw that the frame rate was wierd and didn't see anything in the preview screen but black and the timer seemed messed up. If I would have let it go for a few minutes I would have noticed it was fine

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08-02-2003, 12:37 PM
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Ok now it is running through 2 predictions and jumping to a CQ of 90 to start the encode. I know 90 is to big because I used 81 in ToK and that was even bigger then target. Here is the log. Any ideas?

Code:
http://www.kvcd.net
CQMatic Version 1.05.00
Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003.
All rights reserved.
Time: 10:27:00 Date: 08/02/2003
Ready!
Project: D:\_VideoProjects\Kalifornia\KaLi.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

D:\_VideoProjects\Kalifornia\Kali.m1v
Execute.
Movie Time: 120
Average Bitrate: 1686
Full Encode mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Process started at 10:27:41
On 08/02/2003
Entering CF phase.
Using CQ of 50.00
FAST source analysis...
Process time: 0.65 minutes.
Encoder end.
Correction Factor = 1.5960
Exit CF phase.
Using CQ of 70.00
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.12 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.300399
Last CQ = 70.00
Current CQ = 90.00
CQ difference = 20.000000
Using CQ of 90.00
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.03 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.165986
CQ ABOVE watermark. CQ set to 90.0
Using CQ of 90.00
Encoding set to Full encode.
Full encode start...
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 8.80
Process ended at 10:36:29
On 08/02/2003
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08-02-2003, 01:08 PM
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Click "Default" on the Source Range Setttings and then save your Text Project again.
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08-02-2003, 01:59 PM
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I tried that and it didn't help. I wasn't having any problems when I was using release candidate 5. humm. Is there anyway I can download RC5 again and try it? I deleted it from my disk. I'd like to compare to see.
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08-02-2003, 02:29 PM
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Hi audi2honda..

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I tried that and it didn't help. I wasn't having any problems when I was using release candidate 5. humm. Is there anyway I can download RC5 again and try it? I deleted it from my disk. I'd like to compare to see.
As a general rule, one should never "throw away" things, unless they're
considere garbage

Kwag "usually" doesn't delete any of his releases, unless he has to
make room for other items of discussion or house-cleaning chores, which
will probably happen soon.. so grab what you can, and DON'T delete !!

EDIT: - - due to redesign in the makings I've cleaned up these
................links to prev versions - - can't wait

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08-02-2003, 03:02 PM
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Movie Time: 120
Average Bitrate: 1686
Of course you get a CQ of 90. You are probably set for 2 CDs in Moviestacker
Look at the average bitrate

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08-02-2003, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
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Quote:
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Movie Time: 120
Average Bitrate: 1686
Of course you get a CQ of 90. You are probably set for 2 CDs in Moviestacker
Look at the average bitrate

-kwag
Yea I am set for 2 CDs. But I used ToK for the same movie for 2 CD and it picked a CQ of 81. When the encode finished it was 20MB over target so I figured this would be over too. Maybe I'll just let it run and see what happens. Let me try RC5 first. Thanks Guys.
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Quote:
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Movie Time: 120
Average Bitrate: 1686
Of course you get a CQ of 90. You are probably set for 2 CDs in Moviestacker
Look at the average bitrate

-kwag
Here is what I got from Tok For the same movie and .avs file

Code:
=============================================================
ToK Log: D:\_VideoProjects\Kalifornia\Kali.avs
=============================================================
 
Resolution (fps):704x480 (23.976 fps)
Total Frames: 173781
Total Time  : 02:00:48
-------------------------------------------------------------
 
Audio Size: 115,931,520
Required Video Size: 1,522,468,480
 
Factor: 19.980
Desired Sample Size: 76,199,625
 
-------------------------------------------------------------
Prediction: 1st Group of Passes
-------------------------------------------------------------
 
Next CQ: 80.000. Sample Size: 67,447,150
NextCQ: 90.381 >=90, so check is needed
Next CQ: 90.000
Sample Size: 80,942,780
 
Next CQ: 84.726. Sample Size: 80,398,340
Next CQ: 61.608. Sample Size: 35,851,230
Next CQ: 77.857. Sample Size: 57,532,230
Next CQ: 82.378. Sample Size: 76,911,870
Next CQ: 81.165. Sample Size: 73,529,790
Next CQ: 81.947. Sample Size: 75,875,210

Exit Condition: 0.500 % reached ! yahoo !
Tries   : 7
 

Final CQ: 81.947
Total Time For Predicition: 00:06:48

 
-------------------------------------------------------------
Encoding D:\_VideoProjects\Kalifornia\Kali.avs
-------------------------------------------------------------
 
Encoding... CQ : 81.947
Final Encoded Size: 1,684,768,170
Total Time (all operations): 02:23:25
 
Finished
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08-02-2003, 05:15 PM
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Ok I ran it though RC5 and while the prediction took over an hour on my 3ghz machine I think it is accurate. CQ of 80 where ToK gave 81.9 and was slightly over target. I'll report back with results in 3 hours.

Thanks for all the hard work Kwag I saw your post in the other thread about redesigning the entire thing.

Code:
http://www.kvcd.net
CQMatic Version 1.0 RC-5
Copyright Softronex Corporation, 2003.
All rights reserved.
Time: 14:00:37 Date: 08/02/2003
Ready!
Project: D:\_VideoProjects\Kalifornia\KaLi.tpr

Creating: CQMatic.tpr

D:\_VideoProjects\Kalifornia\Kali.m1v
Execute.
Movie Time: 120
Average Bitrate: 1686
Full Encode mode
Executing Prediction Phase...
Using CQ of 80.00
Process started at 14:00:47
On 08/02/2003
CQ too HIGH!. Adjusted.
Using CQ of 75.00
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.15 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.067802
Last CQ = 75.000000
Current CQ = 77.542572
CQ difference = 2.542572
Using CQ of 77.54
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.03 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.066228
Last CQ = 77.542572
Current CQ = 78.813858
CQ difference = 1.271286
Low diff. CQ bumped!
Using CQ of 90.00
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.10 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.968812
Last CQ = 90.000000
Current CQ = 87.193054
CQ difference = 2.806946
Using CQ of 87.19
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.05 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.969194
Last CQ = 87.193054
Current CQ = 84.506973
CQ difference = 2.686081
Using CQ of 84.51
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.03 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.969565
Last CQ = 84.506973
Current CQ = 81.934975
CQ difference = 2.571999
Using CQ of 81.93
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.08 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.978608
Last CQ = 81.934975
Current CQ = 80.182243
CQ difference = 1.752731
Using CQ of 80.18
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.18 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.006006
Last CQ = 80.182243
Current CQ = 80.663780
CQ difference = 0.481537
Using CQ of 80.66
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.68 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.994309
Last CQ = 80.663780
Current CQ = 80.204750
CQ difference = 0.459030
Using CQ of 80.20
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.67 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.005418
Last CQ = 80.204750
Current CQ = 80.639336
CQ difference = 0.434586
Using CQ of 80.64
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.72 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.994719
Last CQ = 80.639336
Current CQ = 80.213478
CQ difference = 0.425858
Using CQ of 80.21
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.12 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.005131
Last CQ = 80.213478
Current CQ = 80.625053
CQ difference = 0.411575
Using CQ of 80.63
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.03 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.994922
Last CQ = 80.625053
Current CQ = 80.215645
CQ difference = 0.409409
Using CQ of 80.22
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.15 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.004818
Last CQ = 80.215645
Current CQ = 80.602127
CQ difference = 0.386482
Using CQ of 80.60
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.10 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.995614
Last CQ = 80.602127
Current CQ = 80.248611
CQ difference = 0.353516
Using CQ of 80.25
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.05 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 1.004072
Last CQ = 80.248611
Current CQ = 80.575417
CQ difference = 0.326805
Using CQ of 80.58
Encoder started...
Process time: 4.07 minutes.
Encoder end.
File size difference  = 0.995922
Last CQ = 80.575417
Current CQ = 80.412018
CQ difference = 0.163399
Encoding set to Full encode.
Full encode start...
CQMatic complete!
Total minutes of process: 67.28
Process ended at 15:08:04
On 08/02/2003
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08-02-2003, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
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Thanks for all the hard work Kwag I saw your post in the other thread about redesigning the entire thing.

Thanks.
I won't be happy until every encode is at least ~2% of final size.


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