KVCD: Good Way to Convert from PAL 25 fps to NTSCfilm 29 fps ?

ezysk · #1 08-06-2003, 08:42 AM

Anyone know a good way to convert from PAL 25 fps to NTSCFilm 29 fps ???

Icarus3000 · #2 08-06-2003, 10:09 AM

I asked the same question here:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5454

And still haven't found the solution!

This guide:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/166237.php

worked well for me to go from PAL 25 to NTSC 23.976, but when I tried to convert the sound to NTSC 29.97 it soundeed like Alvin and the Chipmunks!

Anyone know of a guide out there for this, or have any recommendations?

Thanks,
Icarus

new_bee · #3 08-06-2003, 11:29 AM

No, I'm sorry.

But you don't need to do this. Just encode with 23.976 fps (takes less space anyway) and set a 29 fps flag with Pulldown (get it here: http://www.doom9.org/software2.htm). Your standalone thinks it's 29 fps and does the pulldown itself.

Dialhot · #4 08-06-2003, 11:32 AM

Why don't you let your KVCD in 23.976 with "3:2 pulldown during play" activated ?

That make your 23.976 video seen as 29.97 by the player and everything should be okay.

ezysk · #5 08-06-2003, 01:00 PM

Well, I just found out, my DVD player can play the PAL format,so it don't really matter, except for the fact that I can't use the higher KVCD resolution templates especially when converting from the DIVX avi formats. I think they're like something 400x200.

Icarus3000 · #6 08-06-2003, 01:22 PM

Dialhot:

When you say to encode with "3:2 pulldown during play", is this a setting in TMPGenc, or do I need to add something to my Avisynth script?

Also, when TMPGenc asks for the framerate, should I set it to 23.97 or 29.97? (I assume that with the "3:2 pulldonw during play" setting I should still set the framerate to 23.97, but would like to confirm).

Thanks,
Icarus

Dialhot · #7 08-06-2003, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezysk

Well, I just found out, my DVD player can play the PAL format,so it don't really matter, except for the fact that I can't use the higher KVCD resolution templates especially when converting from the DIVX avi formats.

Why ? I'm in a PAL region (France) and I can use whatever template I want., both in PAL and NTSC. Do you mean that your player supports only PAL at VCD resolution ?

Dialhot · #8 08-06-2003, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icarus3000

Dialhot:

When you say to encode with "3:2 pulldown during play", is this a setting in TMPGenc, or do I need to add something to my Avisynth script?

That's a setting in TMPGEnc but avalaible only if you encode as MPEG2 (that's the drawback of this solution)

Quote:

Also, when TMPGenc asks for the framerate, should I set it to 23.97 or 29.97? (I assume that with the "3:2 pulldonw during play" setting I should still set the framerate to 23.97, but would like to confirm).

You assume correcly. BTW if you try to lauch an encoding with 3:2 pulldown activated and fps set to 29.97, TMPGEnc will complain that is not possible.

Icarus3000 · #9 08-06-2003, 04:19 PM

Dialhot:

I prefer to encode in MPEG-1. Is there a solution that's compatible with MPEG-1?

Thanks,
Icarus

Dialhot · #10 08-06-2003, 04:55 PM

Running manualy the program pulldown.exe on the video file should work but I never test this myself.

vmesquita · #11 08-06-2003, 05:17 PM

Icarus3000,

For MPEG1 you can just keep the 23.976 fps since it is a legal VCD framerate. To enable the MPEG2 3:2 "pulldown during play" you have to set the framerate in TMPGENC "29.97 internally 23.976" or the other way around, not sure now.
But if you have truly interlaced PAL content (*not* movies and TV Shows, I am talking about musicals, Sports, News, Documentaries), that you want to convert to NTSC interlaced, you can use this script:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=35387

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Vmesquita