Bitrates: Multiple shows on one cdr?
Can someone explain how to use cqmatic to encode more than one tv
show...I have a dvd of the family guy and want to put 4 episodes per cdr. but every time I try to encode them individualy I can only fit at most 2 per cdr after ading audio...also how can i ajust the cq to use the audio from the source video dirctly in tmpgenc by the way each episode is like 22 minutes long if that helps thanx in advance |
22 views come on guys did I post wrong or something, ok how about a
small updated guide on calculating cq manualy, I saw one on here the other day but dont know if it still aplys...pppplease I need to back up this dvd before my son trashes it again. |
You should make from the vobs of these 4 episodes one d2v file. Than use cqmatic to predict the cq. Encode the separate shows with that CQ. That is.
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Hey Max,
Off-topic: Family Guy is sweet. :) I read somewhere recently that the Fox network is seriously thinking about renewing that show for 2005 due to very strong dvd sales and high ratings for its re-runs currently airing on Cartoon Network! (also undoubtedly due to Fox's general lack of any new quality programming recently...and their uncanny knack for prematurely cancelling good shows :roll: ). Back on-topic: You probably didn't get much help because you need to provide more details, details, details! Be as descriptive as possible about all programs and methods you're currently using and the guides you are following.....also NTSC or PAL source?, what resolution are you using?, min/max video bitrates used?, audio bitrate?, post your avisynth script, etc, etc, etc. Help others help you. :wink: Good luck, -d&c |
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convert it to xvid so I dont loose too much quality and my wife through out the original dvd because it was all scrached up. Any way to convert back to vob? Quote:
Video- Compression: XVID Frames: 32422 Frames Per Second: 23.9760 File Size: 161716224 bytes (154.22 MB) Microseconds per frame: 41708 Peak Bitrate: 0 Running Time: 1352.2689 seconds Resolution: 640 x 480 Audio- Compression: MP3 Audio Layer Samples Rate: 48000 Channels: 2 Bitrate: 192 kbs 96/chx2 I cant use a script I get this error when I open my avi in AVISynth 252 "Could not decompress frame 0" but TMPGenc Plus 2.521.58.169 opens it with no problems I even tried to use a script without filters but still no joy I have no idea what the problem is all my other dvds have no problems at all to open with scripts...The only program im using is CQMatic 1203 and Calcumatic and TMPGenc Steps Performed- Opened TMPGenc clicked FILE-NEW PROJECT Opened my avi and cleared the audio, ticked ES (VIDEO ONLY) then I clicked on LOAD and loaded this template: KVCD-ULBR-352x240-_NTSCFilm_PLUS360 minutes on one CD-R.mcf then clicked SETTINGS and changed only MOTION ESTIMATE SEARCH (FAST) and CONSTANT QUALITY(CQ) (SETTINGS) changed the MAX BITRATE: 2000. Then I opened CQMatic and clicked on the calculator for Calcumatic then I opened my avi in calcumatic and kept audio at 128 kbs (Default) video and audio as default as well and hit calculate. MINUTES: 22 AVERAGE BITRATE: 4719.3 0.57 * AVERAGE: 2690.0 VIDEO SIZE: 797568 kb AUDIO SIZE: 21632 kb Now I opened CQMatic MOVIE TIME IN MINUTES: 22 AVERAGE BITRATE: 4719.3 went back to cq settings in TMPGenc and changed: MIN BITRATE: 2690.0 (0.57 x 4719.3) then I ticked (ENABLE PADDING) clicked OK and clicked on ADVANCED and double clicked SOURCE RANGE and cliked the DEFAULT button clicked OK and clicked CUT EDITING just to make sure RESET CUT EDITING was greyed out clicked OK and then unticked SOURCE RANGE then I clicked on GOP STRUCTURE tab and clicked MAX NUMBER OF FRAMES IN A GOP: was 24 but changed it to 12 because I read on another post that 12 is for cartoons and 24 is for movie then I ticked OUTPUT BITSTREAM FOR EDIT(CLOSED GOP) and DETECT SEEN CHANGE then I clicked OK and clicked on FILE-SAVE PROJECT and saved it as a text project then I closed TMPGenc and went back to cqmatic and clicked SETTINGS and made sure it reflected the path of TMPGenc exe finnaly I clicked OPPEN PROJECT and navigated to my saved text project and clicked open chose PREDICTION (X3) and FULL ENCODE and EXECUTE, I used a lot of detail in hopes that if my settings are in fact correct it will serve as a detailed guide for others to follow. Quote:
dont ruin True Calling lol :D |
Can anyone confirm these settings for me please?
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Please stop posting stuff like "Why is nobody answering..." :?
The problem seems to be within your script, if you can't open it with TMPGEnc... Please post your AVS Script too! Edit: Sorry about that, didn't read carefully... If you can use AVS scripts with D2Vs, but not with that particular AVI, you might try to open it with DirectShowSource("YourAVI.avi"). Other than that, please post your script! 8) |
Ok this is the script:
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The other one I have been trying is: Quote:
Avisource("Avisource: Could not decompress frame 0") line 1 |
What are these avi ? Do you have the correct codec on your PC ?
(codec, not directshow filter). Try with "Avisource("filename.avi",false). |
I can wach them on windows media player and the playa by divx with no
problems and tmpg opens it just fine so I think I have all the codecs I need the codec is Xvid any ideas? Quote:
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Use the tool Gspot on them and see if he reports "valid" codecs for this video or not. |
I think you are right about the codec do you know were I can find the
xvid codec? I installed the xvid decoder but I dont know were to find the actual codec from. Edit: You were right thanks...its working with the script However my original question about finding a cq for multiple episodes or an updated method for manualy caculating cq, im thinking at 22min long I should be able to fit more than 2 episodes per cdr...How can I do that in cqmatic/calcumatic? |
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Thank you Dialhot for your help im going to give this a shot and let you
know how it went when I get done...One last thing can you confirm my settings above so I know if I have been doing this right from the start I often found that some movies come out to be around 800 mb and thats before adding the audio...Thanks again! :D |
If you have problem in the prediction, set "160" as audio bitrate in calcumatic and let cqmatic do its job. Then you will encode the audio at 128 and you will have a file length right in the target.
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in cqmatic 160kbs and if I want audio at 112 kbs set the audio to 128 kbs at least this is how I understand it but the end result is sometimes still way to much and end up having to do it all over again. Or do you mean I should always set audio bitrate to 160 kbs? Quote:
can only open d2v or avi and since my avi's are separate how can I open all the ones im going to use in one avi? |
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If you do always a prediction at 160, you will probably have a lot of encoding that will be too far under the target. Quote:
(you can have the length of the total avs by loading it in media player). |
Dialhot I just wanted to say thanks, I just finished my encode and it could
not have been more on target if it had a bullseye. The only problem I had was using the MA Script for some reason the cartoon would move with a blur on any quick movements so I removed the part in red below Im dooing prediction x3 as I write this...Hope it works Thanks again man! :D ## DLL Section ## # LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\2.5Filters\MPEG2Dec3.dll" ) LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\2.5Filters\GripFit_YV12.d ll") LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\2.5Filters\STMedianFilter .dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\2.5Filters\asharp.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\2.5Filters\unfilter.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\2.5Filters\undot.dll") # #### ## Defined Variables and Constants ## # MaxTreshold = 1.50 nf = 0 # Current frame. # #### ## Main section and static filters ### # aviSource("D:\Family Guy Season 1 Episode 105 - A Hero Sits Next Door.avi")+aviSource("D:\Family Guy Season 1 Episode 106 - The Son Also Draws.avi")+aviSource("D:\Family Guy Season 1 Episode 107 - Brian - Portrait of a Dog.avi") undot() Limiter() asharp(1, 4) GripCrop(352,240) GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize") STMedianFilter(3, 3, 1, 1 ) MergeChroma(blur(MaxTreshold)) MergeLuma(blur(0.1)) # # ## Linear Motion Adaptive Filtering ## # # ( Portions from AviSynth's manual ) - This will apply temporalsoften to # very static scenes, and apply variable blur on moving scenes. # We also assign a variable - and this is why a line break is inserted: SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2 ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf >= SwitchThreshold ? \ unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ) : \ TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ") # # # GripBorders() #LetterBox( 352,240 ) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker! Limiter() # # ## Functions ### function fmin( int f1, int f2) { return ( f1<f2 ) ? f1 : f2 } # #### |
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THIS IS THE MA PART!: Quote:
But! In case of AVI if you don't want to use MA just switch to one of DialHots scripts ... their purpose is exactly what you need ... well as it seems to me in your case. Inc. [/quote] |
Hey Max,
Glad to see that you're on your way now. :) But is there any particular reason why you chose to use such a low resolution of 352x240? (ick! :P ). Considering that your source files have a resolution of 640x480, and you are only putting three of these ~22-minute episodes per disc (according to your script), you should definetly be able to use a higher, better looking resolution. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if you could fit 4 episodes per disc at a decent quality level while using a 480/528/544x480 resolution (that is, depending on what works in your player and your minimum CQ level preferences). If you only want 3 episodes per disc, you could even use 704x480, but IMO for a cartoon like Family Guy, anything above 544x is probably overkill. ( :idea: On second thought, since your source has already suffered a quality-loss during the conversion to xvid, you might actually want to consider using 704x480 so that you maintain every extra bit of detail that you can from that 640x file of yours). If higher resolution KVCDs do work on your player, then I'd recommend doing a small visual comparison between 480/528/544x and 704x samples and using one of those. If higher resolution KVCDs don't work on your player, then I'd recommend looking for a new player this holiday season! :wink: Cheers, -d&c |
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