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JoZ 12-20-2003 02:23 AM

Multiple vcd to one kvcd?
 
I'm searching and looking and... nothing. I cannot find out what's the best way to make one kvcd from 2 or more vcds. When it's svcd it's easy using d2v, with multiple .avi there is no problem, but... with that mpeg1 yuck. Can someone give me an idea, a direction or anything that will ring a bell. Thanks in advance.

Dialhot 12-20-2003 04:27 AM

First convert your .dat (riff files) in regular mpg file with vcdgear or vcdeasy.

Then use the same method than with SVCD : DVD2AVI. If it refuses your MPEG1 (don't ask me why), you must convert your mpeg in huffyuy avi with tmpgenc (load the mpg asd source, go in file menu and chose "output to file -> avi".

Then you will have an avi to use, and you know how to do.

JoZ 12-20-2003 09:34 AM

Thanks but no thanks. Anyone with an idea going from mpeg1 direct to mpeg1? Avisynth with multiple mpeg1 sources? Is that possible?

kwag 12-20-2003 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoZ
Anyone with an idea going from mpeg1 direct to mpeg1?

Yes, with what dialhot just suggested, via intermediate lossless conversion.
Quote:

Avisynth with multiple mpeg1 sources?
With DirectShowSource, but good luck if it works at all :!:
Quote:

Is that possible?
Not reliably.

-kwag

Dialhot 12-20-2003 10:27 AM

I will add that I told "IF DVD2AVI REFUSES YOUR MPEG1". There is a IF ! So that means that I suggested a method than SHOULD work but not in every cases !

JoZ 12-20-2003 10:30 PM

FYI

Well both suggestions are not working.

dvd2avi v 1.76 cannot read my standard mpeg1. Not asking why. Just a fact.

tmpegenc, vdub and vdubmod can produce an avi from mpeg1 but after that when it's imported in avs via moviestacker2 cannot be recognized as normal avs in tok. Frame rate, movie size... are total mess.

Anyway thanks! I decided to put them in multiple vcd.

Dialhot 12-20-2003 10:36 PM

FYI

Both methods work (the second one everytime, the first one only on some mpeg1). else I woudn't talk about them. I used the second one last week, and the first one 2 hours ago !

So, you can for sure decide to put that on multiple VCD but you should also try to find why you failed in the first attempt.

rendalunit 12-20-2003 10:47 PM

I do this all the time! With the latest avisynth 2.5x, use DirectShowSource

Say you have movie1.mpg and movie2.mpg (converted from .DAT if needed)

make a script something like this:
Code:

a=DirectShowSource("movie1.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)
b=DirectShowSource("movie2.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)

c=a+b
Limiter(c)

Since DirectShowSource has been improved in the latest Avisynth you can do filesize prediction with no problems- as long as the audio is removed (with killaudio() )

Forget loading mpeg-1 into DVD2AVI (well I've never had any luck with that but I guess others have)

kwag 12-20-2003 11:04 PM

Thanks ren :D

-kwag

JoZ 12-21-2003 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
FYI

Both methods work (the second one everytime, the first one only on some mpeg1). else I woudn't talk about them. I used the second one last week, and the first one 2 hours ago !

So, you can for sure decide to put that on multiple VCD but you should also try to find why you failed in the first attempt.

Well if I didn't try I would not going to post. Right? I'm using kvcd for about an year and god bless kwag for the excellent job he has done.

With other words I've an idea about what I'm trying to do and I was asking for an advice.

Thanks for your response. Maybe the problem is that I'm still using 2.0.8

Thank you, Ren

Dialhot 12-21-2003 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoZ
Well if I didn't try I would not going to post. Right? I'm using kvcd for about an year and god bless kwag for the excellent job he has done.

We really have a communication problem there !

Did I suggest that you didn't try ? NO !
I suggested you to TRY TO FIND WHERE IS THE PROBLEM because these 2 methods work !

Now if you are happy with something that work everywhere on the planet and not on your PC, I can leave with that and let you grow your one year experience alone.

PS: and for the 2 first methods the version of avs is not the problem

incredible 12-21-2003 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rendalunit
Code:

a=DirectShowSource("movie1.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)
b=DirectShowSource("movie2.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)

c=a+b
Limiter(c)


You still should apply after importing a Directshow source in your AVS script as recommended at avisynth.org a fix(EDIT:BROKEN)chromaupsampling-line ;-) :

FixBrokenChromaUpsampling()

I don't know now if exactly this also has been fixed internally in 2.53, so you should apply it.

Inc.

JoZ 12-21-2003 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
We really have a communication problem there !

OBVIOUSLY! FInally you got it. Cannot believe that. Didn't exepct it to happened.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
Did I suggest that you didn't try ? NO !
I suggested you to TRY TO FIND WHERE IS THE PROBLEM because these 2 methods work !

You are missing a minor detail. They maybe are working for YOU, but from my point of view THEY DON'T. THERE IS NO PROBLEM, they just DO NOT.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot
Now if you are happy with something that work everywhere on the planet and not on your PC, I can leave with that and let you grow your one year experience alone.

That will be great.

rendalunit 12-21-2003 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incredible
You still should apply after importing a Directshow source in your AVS script as recommended at avisynth.org a fixchromaupsampling-line:

FixBrokenChromaUpsampling()

I don't know now if exactly this also has been fixed internally in 2.53, so you should apply it.

Didn't know about that- thanks!

ren


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