Multiple VCD to one KVCD?

JoZ · #1 12-20-2003, 02:23 AM

I'm searching and looking and... nothing. I cannot find out what's the best way to make one kvcd from 2 or more vcds. When it's svcd it's easy using d2v, with multiple .avi there is no problem, but... with that mpeg1 yuck. Can someone give me an idea, a direction or anything that will ring a bell. Thanks in advance.

Dialhot · #2 12-20-2003, 04:27 AM

First convert your .dat (riff files) in regular mpg file with vcdgear or vcdeasy.

Then use the same method than with SVCD : DVD2AVI. If it refuses your MPEG1 (don't ask me why), you must convert your mpeg in huffyuy avi with tmpgenc (load the mpg asd source, go in file menu and chose "output to file -> avi".

Then you will have an avi to use, and you know how to do.

JoZ · #3 12-20-2003, 09:34 AM

Thanks but no thanks. Anyone with an idea going from mpeg1 direct to mpeg1? Avisynth with multiple mpeg1 sources? Is that possible?

kwag · #4 12-20-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JoZ

Anyone with an idea going from mpeg1 direct to mpeg1?

Yes, with what dialhot just suggested, via intermediate lossless conversion.

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Avisynth with multiple mpeg1 sources?

With DirectShowSource, but good luck if it works at all

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Is that possible?

Not reliably.

-kwag

Dialhot · #5 12-20-2003, 10:27 AM

I will add that I told "IF DVD2AVI REFUSES YOUR MPEG1". There is a IF ! So that means that I suggested a method than SHOULD work but not in every cases !

JoZ · #6 12-20-2003, 10:30 PM

FYI

Well both suggestions are not working.

dvd2avi v 1.76 cannot read my standard mpeg1. Not asking why. Just a fact.

tmpegenc, vdub and vdubmod can produce an avi from mpeg1 but after that when it's imported in avs via moviestacker2 cannot be recognized as normal avs in tok. Frame rate, movie size... are total mess.

Anyway thanks! I decided to put them in multiple vcd.

Dialhot · #7 12-20-2003, 10:36 PM

FYI

Both methods work (the second one everytime, the first one only on some mpeg1). else I woudn't talk about them. I used the second one last week, and the first one 2 hours ago !

So, you can for sure decide to put that on multiple VCD but you should also try to find why you failed in the first attempt.

rendalunit · #8 12-20-2003, 10:47 PM

I do this all the time! With the latest avisynth 2.5x, use DirectShowSource

Say you have movie1.mpg and movie2.mpg (converted from .DAT if needed)

make a script something like this:

Code:

a=DirectShowSource("movie1.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)
b=DirectShowSource("movie2.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)

c=a+b
Limiter(c)

Since DirectShowSource has been improved in the latest Avisynth you can do filesize prediction with no problems- as long as the audio is removed (with killaudio() )

Forget loading mpeg-1 into DVD2AVI (well I've never had any luck with that but I guess others have)

kwag · #9 12-20-2003, 11:04 PM

Thanks ren

-kwag

JoZ · #10 12-21-2003, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dialhot

FYI

Both methods work (the second one everytime, the first one only on some mpeg1). else I woudn't talk about them. I used the second one last week, and the first one 2 hours ago !

So, you can for sure decide to put that on multiple VCD but you should also try to find why you failed in the first attempt.

Well if I didn't try I would not going to post. Right? I'm using kvcd for about an year and god bless kwag for the excellent job he has done.

With other words I've an idea about what I'm trying to do and I was asking for an advice.

Thanks for your response. Maybe the problem is that I'm still using 2.0.8

Thank you, Ren

Dialhot · #11 12-21-2003, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JoZ

Well if I didn't try I would not going to post. Right? I'm using kvcd for about an year and god bless kwag for the excellent job he has done.

We really have a communication problem there !

Did I suggest that you didn't try ? NO !
I suggested you to TRY TO FIND WHERE IS THE PROBLEM because these 2 methods work !

Now if you are happy with something that work everywhere on the planet and not on your PC, I can leave with that and let you grow your one year experience alone.

PS: and for the 2 first methods the version of avs is not the problem

incredible · #12 12-21-2003, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rendalunit

Code:

a=DirectShowSource("movie1.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)
b=DirectShowSource("movie2.mpg").KillAudio().LanczosResize(352,480)

c=a+b
Limiter(c)

You still should apply after importing a Directshow source in your AVS script as recommended at avisynth.org a fix(EDIT:BROKEN)chromaupsampling-line

:

FixBrokenChromaUpsampling()

I don't know now if exactly this also has been fixed internally in 2.53, so you should apply it.

Inc.

JoZ · #13 12-21-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dialhot

We really have a communication problem there !

OBVIOUSLY! FInally you got it. Cannot believe that. Didn't exepct it to happened.

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Originally Posted by Dialhot

Did I suggest that you didn't try ? NO !
I suggested you to TRY TO FIND WHERE IS THE PROBLEM because these 2 methods work !

You are missing a minor detail. They maybe are working for YOU, but from my point of view THEY DON'T. THERE IS NO PROBLEM, they just DO NOT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

Now if you are happy with something that work everywhere on the planet and not on your PC, I can leave with that and let you grow your one year experience alone.

That will be great.

rendalunit · #14 12-21-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by incredible

You still should apply after importing a Directshow source in your AVS script as recommended at avisynth.org a fixchromaupsampling-line:

FixBrokenChromaUpsampling()

I don't know now if exactly this also has been fixed internally in 2.53, so you should apply it.

Didn't know about that- thanks!

ren